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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
walter g wrote:
walter g wrote:
Updated list

Soligor Codes

1 = Tokina
2 = Sun
3 = Sun
4 = Sun
5 = ???
6 = Komine
7 = Sun
8 = ???
9 = Kino
31 = ??? *
A = Komura #
H4 = Kawanon ? #
H5 = Komine #
H6 = Komine #
H7= Tokina #
H37 = Kawanon? #
M = ??? #
N = ??? #
R = ??? #
T = Tamron #
Y = Komura #

Code system. First number = Maker.
Second number = Decade
Third number = Year

*Six digit lens date code unknown.

# Letter code lens date code unknown.


..... DISCLAMER THIS IS A WORKING LIST......
..... IT MAY CHANGE AS NEW EVIDENCE IS FOUND.....


I just added y code = Komura which is the old Komura code.
Here is a link to a beatiful example of this lens, and yes I want one.
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-telephoto-135mm-f2-8-t38154.html


I haven't been paying much attention to this thread for quite a while, then I remembered that a fellow I bought an FTb from recently tossed in an old Soligor 90-230mm f/4.5 lens in with the deal. It's so old, it's an FL mount, and not even FD. But this listing intrigued me. So it looks like my lens, whose s/n begins with 171 was made by Tokina in 1971. Sounds about right, since 1971 was the year Canon introduced the FD mount.

Anyway the 90-230/4.5 was certainly a ubiquitous lens back in those days, appearing under different names besides Soligor (I know for sure that one of them was Vivitar). Still is, I guess. Good to know it was made by Tokina. I've never used mine, but it's close to mint with no fungus, and well-made, which was not unusual for many lenses back in those days. Even so, it's probably worth little more than a door-stop, most likely. Still, good to know who made it and when. Thanks for all the works, guys. I, for one, appreciate it.


PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: just in case anyone cares... Reply with quote
RioRico wrote:
H6xxxxx --- Hanimex 135/2.8 -- M42, Komine?


All the Hanimex lenses I've seen with an H prefix so far have been Tokinas Smile


PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
walter g wrote:
walter g wrote:
Updated list

Soligor Codes

1 = Tokina
2 = Sun
3 = Sun
4 = Sun
5 = ???
6 = Komine
7 = Sun
8 = ???
9 = Kino
31 = ??? *
A = Komura #
H4 = Kawanon ? #
H5 = Komine #
H6 = Komine #
H7= Tokina #
H37 = Kawanon? #
M = ??? #
N = ??? #
R = Itoh #
T = Tamron #
Y = Komura #

Code system. First number = Maker.
Second number = Decade
Third number = Year

*Six digit lens date code unknown.

# Letter code lens date code unknown.


..... DISCLAMER THIS IS A WORKING LIST......
..... IT MAY CHANGE AS NEW EVIDENCE IS FOUND.....


I just added y code = Komura which is the old Komura code.
Here is a link to a beatiful example of this lens, and yes I want one.
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-telephoto-135mm-f2-8-t38154.html


Added R code = Itoh

Link to example.
http://forum.mflenses.com/itohkogaku-higon-135-3-5-preset-samples-t19061.html


PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good detective work, Walter.


PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Aperture blade formation on the Itohs seems the same as the later Kino made lenses:

http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1141442.html#1141442


PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've just picked a very tidy 200 mm f4.5 chrome ears Soligor from a pawn shop for £12, so now I have a 35, 135, 200 & 300 in the same series. I'll try it out tomorrow.

The serial number is 1678241 - and it has all the hallmarks of a Tokina / Soligor.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I want to add a picture of my Soligor C/D Wide-Auto 2,8/28 with Ser-Nr. 6795968.



Is it from Komine?


PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd say M code lenses are made by Miranda within 1963 to 1976 as described here: http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Miranda

"It is said that the Miranda company set up its own lens factory in 1963 (earlier lenses were supplied by various manufacturers, except for the first Supreme). The company returned to the Japanese market in autumn 1964,[13] but the US importer Allied Impex gradually took control, and fully owned the company by the late 1960s.

The Sensorex model was released in 1967, with TTL exposure metering. It is said that a new factory was opened outside Tokyo in 1970 or perhaps 1971. In 1971, the company introduced the Sensorex EE with shutter-priority automatic exposure and a new set of viewfinders. Upgraded as the EE-2 in 1976, it would be the last Miranda with interchangeable viewfinder.

In 1972, the company released its only non-SLR camera, the Sensoret compact rangefinder. In 1975, it made an attempt at a compact SLR with fixed prism and electronically controlled shutter, called the Miranda dx-3. Neither of these met with great success, and the Miranda company went bankrupt on December 10, 1976 and stopped camera production the same month."

Serials starting with "M" and branded Soligor (followed by 6 digits) one could assume first two digits were years of production. This could also be valid for some "H" prefix like this (Tokina, Sun, Hanimex, Lentar) 2.8/135mm: http://forum.mflenses.com/h-code-lenses-t42233,start,45.html


PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here #8822... Click here to see on Ebay.de
I will add direct images if seller agrees.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
walter g wrote:
Updated list

Soligor Codes

1 = Tokina
2 = Sun
3 = Sun
4 = Sun
5 = ???
6 = Komine
7 = Sun
8 = ???
9 = Kino
31 = ??? *
A = Komura #
H4 = Kawanon ? #
H5 = Komine #
H6 = Komine #
H7= Tokina #
H37 = Kawanon? #
M = ??? #
N = ??? #
R = ??? #
T = Tamron #

Code system. First number = Maker.
Second number = Decade
Third number = Year

*Six digit lens date code unknown.

# Letter code lens date code unknown.


..... DISCLAMER THIS IS A WORKING LIST......
..... IT MAY CHANGE AS NEW EVIDENCE IS FOUND.....



Hi, everyone. I am new here, but a huge MF junkie (under the same handle on dpreview).

I have Soligor C/D 90mm f2.5 macro, which is the same as Vivitar 90mm/f2.8 and is known to be made by Komine. The serial # is 300263 , which throws a monkey wrench into this classification.

I also have a 28mm f2.8 Soligor that hasn't turn up in the thread yet. It's in M42 mount, the ring says
Soligor Wide-Auto 1:2.8 f=2.8mm 55o No. 50074
I'll upload the picture the other day.


PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
fermy wrote:
Hi, everyone. I am new here, but a huge MF junkie (under the same handle on dpreview).

I have Soligor C/D 90mm f2.5 macro, which is the same as Vivitar 90mm/f2.8 and is known to be made by Komine. The serial # is 300263 , which throws a monkey wrench into this classification.

I also have a 28mm f2.8 Soligor that hasn't turn up in the thread yet. It's in M42 mount, the ring says
Soligor Wide-Auto 1:2.8 f=2.8mm 55o No. 50074
I'll upload the picture the other day.


Welcome fermy!

Thanks for the monkey wrench Smile We know about "*Six digit lens date code unknown." Thanks for another example!

Please do upload the photos, with minimum focus distance shown if possible.


PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Code 9 is Tefnon/Kobori, sorry, I had to realize this before because this is what I have found by myself long ago:
http://forum.mflenses.com/the-worst-lens-sold-soligor-35-140mm-t15224,start,15.html#133611
http://forum.mflenses.com/the-worst-lens-sold-soligor-35-140mm-t15224,start,30.html#154650


PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
visualopsins wrote:


Welcome fermy!

Thanks for the monkey wrench Smile We know about "*Six digit lens date code unknown." Thanks for another example!

Please do upload the photos, with minimum focus distance shown if possible.


Thanks for the welcome, visualopsins. So is the classification valid only for 7 digit serials?

Finally got the time to photograph my Soligor. Btw, everything is shot with Vivitar/Kiron 100mm f2.8 macro - it's brutal. Never saw so much dust on this lens.





PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Scheimpflug wrote:



Exakta T2


Reading through this thread made me dig out my Soligor 28 and I found it to be this type, s. no.9740922

It is an M42 preset, 6 blade iris, min marked focus 0.3m, f2.8 to f16, 52mm filter thread.

The lettering style in "Soligor" is the same as this photo and seems to be different to all the other types.

In use, I find it to be sharp but prone to flare if the sun is anywhere other than behind 90 degrees to the lens.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Code 6 is also Tefnon/Kobori






Edit: this is 9 digits s/n so it probably cannot be taken into account.

Last edited by dimitrygo on Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:25 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
On the other hand the 70-235 zoom with s/n starting with 6 in this post looks like Sun http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-12-8-f28mm-21and-versions-t30866,start,30.html#1056805


PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cooltouch wrote:
walter g wrote:
walter g wrote:
Updated list

Soligor Codes

1 = Tokina
2 = Sun
3 = Sun
4 = Sun
5 = ???
6 = Komine
7 = Sun
8 = ???
9 = Kino
31 = ??? *
A = Komura #
H4 = Kawanon ? #
H5 = Komine #
H6 = Komine #
H7= Tokina #
H37 = Kawanon? #
M = ??? #
N = ??? #
R = ??? #
T = Tamron #
Y = Komura #

Code system. First number = Maker.
Second number = Decade
Third number = Year

*Six digit lens date code unknown.

# Letter code lens date code unknown.


..... DISCLAMER THIS IS A WORKING LIST......
..... IT MAY CHANGE AS NEW EVIDENCE IS FOUND.....


I just added y code = Komura which is the old Komura code.
Here is a link to a beatiful example of this lens, and yes I want one.
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-telephoto-135mm-f2-8-t38154.html




I've just seen on ebay a 35mm f3.5 Soligor M42 ( not T2 ) With the Soligor logo in script and a serial number 'M4107'

The M is still a mystery, I have one - a chrome eared 135mm f2.8 - which bears no resemblance in style to the ebay 35mm ( I think it's a Tokina with serial no M1639** )

I have also just bought a Soligor 35mm 2.8 with a serial no. 211010 ( Sun ) which looks identical to the ebay one with the 'M' serial number.

'M' for Mystery ?


PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here is my Soligor 35-70mm f/2.5-3.5 macro lens.
SOLIGOR MC ZOOM-AUTO F2.5/3.5, f=35-70mm MADE IN JAPAN 58Ø NO.979xxxxx, Kino??, OM, Preset, 0.7m, 58mm


#1


#2


PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
pogolens wrote:
Here is my Soligor 35-70mm f/2.5-3.5 macro lens.
SOLIGOR MC ZOOM-AUTO F2.5/3.5, f=35-70mm MADE IN JAPAN 58Ø NO.979xxxxx, Kino??, OM, Preset, 0.7m, 58mm


#1


#2


PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
pogolens wrote:
Here is my Soligor 35-70mm f/2.5-3.5 macro lens.
SOLIGOR MC ZOOM-AUTO F2.5/3.5, f=35-70mm MADE IN JAPAN 58Ø NO.979xxxxx, Kino??, OM, Preset, 0.7m, 58mm


#1


#2


PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
pogolens wrote:
Here is my Soligor 35-70mm f/2.5-3.5 macro lens.
SOLIGOR MC ZOOM-AUTO F2.5/3.5, f=35-70mm MADE IN JAPAN 58Ø NO.979xxxxx, Kino??, OM, Preset, 0.7m, 58mm


#1


#2


PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kobori. http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-9-thy-name-shall-any-more-be-called-kiron-but-kobori-t54945,highlight,+kobori.html


PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Pancolart!

I'll be updating this thread soon...I notice some things are broken, but I have a backup! Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Doing first post here so I don't run into the "no pictures" thing when I want to upload pics of my "gateway" lens... a 28mm 2.8 T4 I got on Craigslist. $10 got me a bag with a miranda camera and what I thought were 2 T4 lenses, but the 135 wasn't...

Current kit is a 5D (orig) with the usual 50mm 1.8 (Metal mount, originally bought for my EOS 620) and the plastic 80-200 4.5-5.6.

Hope to pick up more m42 or other oddball mf lenses...

Cheers... Smile


PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lloydy wrote:
cooltouch wrote:
walter g wrote:
walter g wrote:
Updated list

Soligor Codes

1 = Tokina
2 = Sun
3 = Sun
4 = Sun
5 = ???
6 = Komine
7 = Sun
8 = ???
9 = Kino
31 = ??? *
A = Komura #
H4 = Kawanon ? #
H5 = Komine #
H6 = Komine #
H7= Tokina #
H37 = Kawanon? #
M = ??? #
N = ??? #
R = ??? #
T = Tamron #
Y = Komura #

Code system. First number = Maker.
Second number = Decade
Third number = Year

*Six digit lens date code unknown.

# Letter code lens date code unknown.


..... DISCLAMER THIS IS A WORKING LIST......
..... IT MAY CHANGE AS NEW EVIDENCE IS FOUND.....


I just added y code = Komura which is the old Komura code.
Here is a link to a beatiful example of this lens, and yes I want one.
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-telephoto-135mm-f2-8-t38154.html




I've just seen on ebay a 35mm f3.5 Soligor M42 ( not T2 ) With the Soligor logo in script and a serial number 'M4107'

The M is still a mystery, I have one - a chrome eared 135mm f2.8 - which bears no resemblance in style to the ebay 35mm ( I think it's a Tokina with serial no M1639** )

I have also just bought a Soligor 35mm 2.8 with a serial no. 211010 ( Sun ) which looks identical to the ebay one with the 'M' serial number.

'M' for Mystery ?




Smartphone snapshot of aforementioned 28 2.8 T4:



Awaiting m42-eos adapter to arrive in the mail so I can use it on my 5D.

Also while lurking on eBay I spotted a listing that includes a Taika-Doryt 135mm preset with M#### serial:
Click here to see on Ebay

I noticed that same type lens with similar M#### serial is discussed here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/taika-doryt-135-3-5-m42-mount-t52819.html

Is it possible that the M#### serials are Taika/Taisei/Tamron? Any possible confirmation on this?
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