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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

casualcollector wrote:
RioRico wrote:
Lentar Auto Super -- 25/3.5 -- M42 # C26039

I think the C on your Lentar indicates Cimko. A diamond outline reference mark for the distance and aperture scales is another Cimko characteristic.

Yes, a hollow-inset diamond is indeed there. Thanks!


PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject: Further food for thought.... Reply with quote

Just to complicate matters - Soligor 35mm f3.5 with a KA6 prefix?

http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-35mm-assembled-correctly-t31236.html


PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Mamiya Sekor 28mm/2.8 lens that is identical to
the Soligor CS (fixed), '168' serial # prefix, closest focus 0.45m, auto,
except for being marked as Mamiya Sekor.

Based on some lenses I have, the "H" prefixed serial numbers probably mean they were made by Tokina.


PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ramiller500 wrote:
I have a Mamiya Sekor 28mm/2.8 lens that is identical to
the Soligor CS (fixed), '168' serial # prefix, closest focus 0.45m, auto,
except for being marked as Mamiya Sekor.

Based on some lenses I have, the "H" prefixed serial numbers probably mean they were made by Tokina.


Thank you Bob. There is a lengthening list of lens brands with the "H" serial number prefix, shown in earlier posts in this thread, with different manufacturers. "H" means Hoya has been proposed, that Hoya subcontracted several manufacturers to fulfill Allied Impex orders.


PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that many lens brand names belonged to distributors. Also, manufacturers would often subcontract to each other.


PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ramiller500 wrote:
Keep in mind that many lens brand names belonged to distributors. Also, manufacturers would often subcontract to each other.


What he said! The serial may indicate whom the lens was procured from and not neccesarily assembled by.


PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

casualcollector wrote:
ramiller500 wrote:
Keep in mind that many lens brand names belonged to distributors. Also, manufacturers would often subcontract to each other.


What he said! The serial may indicate whom the lens was procured from and not neccesarily assembled by.


I think we may be agreeing here.

I wrote: ""H" means Hoya has been proposed, that Hoya subcontracted several manufacturers to fulfill Allied Impex orders."

and: "Re: 'H' serial number prefixes

I wonder if the 'H' stands for Hoya, that Allied Impex subcontracted Hoya who then subcontracted with various manufacturers Sun, Komine, Tokina, etc.? Could explain the many manufacturers and brands of 'H' serial prefix lenses."

here: http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-12-8-f28mm-five-generations-t30866,start,28.html


PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see any evidence here that H here means Hoya.


PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ramiller500 wrote:
I don't see any evidence here that H here means Hoya.


No real evidence yet. Just a theory so far, but it does make sense.

But we can say for sure that H doesn't mean Tokina.
I have a Komine made Soligor that has the H on it. It's interesting to note that the Soligor Komine code is 6. Mine is H6.

This thread really should have a disclamer. Work in Progress information listed may change as new evidence is found.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated list

Soligor Codes

1 = Tokina
2 = Sun
3 = Sun
4 = Sun
6 = Komine
7 = Sun
9 = ??
31 = ??? *
H6 = Komine #
H7= Tokina #
H37 = Kawanon? #

Code system. First number = Maker.
Second number = Decade
Third number = Year

*Six digit lens date code unknown.

# Letter code lens date code unknown.


..... DISCLAMER THIS IS A WORKING LIST......
..... IT MAY CHANGE AS NEW EVIDENCE IS FOUND.....


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple pictures of a soligor 7 code lens. If you can please try to identify it.



PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very early C/D series lens, perhaps the first. I recall Sun being named as the manufacturer in the ad for it.

Bill


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill, Thanks. Another Sun code. Shocked

This lens is on Ebay. And no, I'm not buying it this time. Smile
Click here to see on Ebay


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DigiChromeEd wrote:
visualopsins wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote:
I have a Soligor 300mm f5.5 in M42 mount with the serial number 312831. Can anyone tell me who manufactured this lens?

From 5th post in this thread
walter g wrote:
37 = Kawanon ?
38 = Sun
Sun? A photo of lens would be helpful.


Here is the lens:




Does anyone know who manufactured this model?


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another variation? Shocked



Soligor 28/2.8 C/D, SN 281xxxx.

What struck me about this one, is that forward of the focus grip, the lens barrel makes a step inward, whereas without exception, every other 28/2.8 pictured in this thread is either straight, or makes a step outward. Wink


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DigiChromeEd wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote:
visualopsins wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote:
I have a Soligor 300mm f5.5 in M42 mount with the serial number 312831. Can anyone tell me who manufactured this lens?

From 5th post in this thread
walter g wrote:
37 = Kawanon ?
38 = Sun
Sun? A photo of lens would be helpful.


Here is the lens:




Does anyone know who manufactured this model?


This looks a bit like a fixed mount version of the Vivitar 300/5.5 made by Tokina.


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 28mm f2

So this is a Tokina? Surprised





PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that's a Tokina. It's certainly newer than many of the other 28mm lenses in this thread. Possibly Komine or Kiron?


PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nordentro wrote:
I have a 28mm f2

So this is a Tokina? Surprised





You don't know what it is. So I'm guessing you got it cheap. Shocked Soligor had a series of lenses around 1974-1975 that were this style. I call them there high dollar series.
They were fast lenses. Sizes I know of were 28/2, 85 1/5, 105 2/8, 135/2,
200 2/8.
Your lens was made in 1974 by Tokina. code 1= Tokina 74= 1974.
This is one of the lenses that dosen't look like the normal Tokinas.

1974 lenses had the chrome top edge to the lens. 1975 went to all black.
I've seen these lenses listed on Ebay from this series in the USD $200 to $400 plus range, but I havent tracked actual sales to know the real price.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That 300mm looks in general like the Tokina-made 300mm, and is even an f/5.5, but it isn't that Tokina. This one is much less common. I had one just like this under the Kalimar brand in Auto-T mount. All the dimensions don't compare with the real Tokina-made 300/5.5

http://forum.mflenses.com/auto-t-the-most-obscure-interchangeable-mount-t10869,highlight,kaligar.html


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would make it a code 31 = Tokina
I updated the list.
That lens actually has alot of the same styling as the 400 6.3.
Click here to see on Ebay


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

walter g wrote:
That would make it a code 31 = Tokina
I updated the list.
That lens actually has alot of the same styling as the 400 6.3.
Click here to see on Ebay


Did you see seller's other items?(!) The Soligor looks to be identical with his Vivitar 6.3/400, except for mount.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

walter g wrote:
Nordentro wrote:
I have a 28mm f2

So this is a Tokina? Surprised


You don't know what it is. So I'm guessing you got it cheap. Shocked Soligor had a series of lenses around 1974-1975 that were this style. I call them there high dollar series.
They were fast lenses. Sizes I know of were 28/2, 85 1/5, 105 2/8, 135/2,
200 2/8.
Your lens was made in 1974 by Tokina. code 1= Tokina 74= 1974.
This is one of the lenses that dosen't look like the normal Tokinas.

1974 lenses had the chrome top edge to the lens. 1975 went to all black.
I've seen these lenses listed on Ebay from this series in the USD $200 to $400 plus range, but I havent tracked actual sales to know the real price.


Thx mate! That's great news, indeed Very Happy
I paid 63 GBP (about 98 USD) for this lens in very good shape. I am happy with booth the lens and the price Wink


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DigiChromeEd wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote:
visualopsins wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote:
I have a Soligor 300mm f5.5 in M42 mount with the serial number 312831. Can anyone tell me who manufactured this lens?

From 5th post in this thread
walter g wrote:
37 = Kawanon ?
38 = Sun
Sun? A photo of lens would be helpful.


Here is the lens:




Does anyone know who manufactured this model?


Here's a shot taken in my garden today with this lens @ f11 on a Canon EOS 10D. Not too bad a performer imho.


PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

visualopsins wrote:
walter g wrote:
That would make it a code 31 = Tokina
I updated the list.
That lens actually has alot of the same styling as the 400 6.3.
Click here to see on Ebay


Did you see seller's other items?(!) The Soligor looks to be identical with his Vivitar 6.3/400, except for mount.


I missed that.
What really makes his lens different from any I've seen Is the diamond marker for the apeture. It's hollow not filled. Also look at the crop below.
The lines don't slant out at the bottom. Not typical Tokina at all.