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handz
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handz wrote:
Of course, Im going to make comparsion photo this evening. |
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blende8
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blende8 wrote:
Post your ser.no, too.
I once had three, two with the more "agricultural" focus ring and the smooth surface, ser.no. 90.. and 91..
The one I kept, with the better focussing ring and the matt finish has a ser.no. 93..
Images here.
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handz
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handz wrote:
So here are the pics!
As you can see, there are lot of differences!
The "Cyrylic" one have:
Bluish coating.
Thiner focusing grip.
Lighter font and logo. |
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blende8
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blende8 wrote:
Thanks!
Any difference in the smoothness of the focussing ring?
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handz
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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handz wrote:
The Cyrylic one is much much smoother, maybe too mcuh, from using. The Cyrylic have bit of matt finish. |
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Pancolart wrote:
Splendid specimens! It's still yellow glass though some blue truly reflects.
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handz
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handz wrote:
Yeh still yellow, camera wont take it, but it is much more blue when seen by your eyes.
I must test if the added blue layer added something good or bad to the lens.. |
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TBaker
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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TBaker wrote:
Would you sell one?  |
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handz
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handz wrote:
Sure! But Im very expensive  |
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
handz: Is the rear glass loose on either one? My rear most glass is loose and I don't know how to get to it.
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pulatom
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pulatom wrote:
Which version (Cyrillic or Latin) do you think was better build, mechanically and optically?
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Pancolart
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Pancolart wrote:
The difference between these two samples is much smaller then variation that happens between two specimens of the same type due to factors like storing, handling, year of production etc. So information would be irrelevant by my opinion.
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pulatom
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pulatom wrote:
I've found a site where someone posted a photo made with the 85/1.2 version. He converted it to DSLR by simply sawing off the protruding element  .
http://photoholic.110mb.com/lenstest1.html
Ain't the sharpest one, and the CA is huge, but it gives kind of dreamy Imagon-like effect, don't you think?
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handz
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handz wrote:
Yeah I found that too, IQ is very low. |
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Nordentro wrote:
Interesting test indeed 
I find most lenses above f1.4 expensive and overrated. They often suffers from bloom, purple fringing and low contrast wide open, but this particular lens in the test (85mm f1.2) can be purchased for a pretty good price.
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pulatom
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pulatom wrote:
If I get my hands on a 85/1.2 I'll try with sawing off the rear element, it should work alright for B&W photos, some sharpening can always be applied .
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Nordentro wrote:
Clever one at Click here to see on Ebay.de, look it's a helios!
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| If I get my hands on a 85/1.2 I'll try with sawing off the rear element, it should work alright for B&W photos, some sharpening can always be applied . |
Before you take the saw to it, try it without. The majority of the rear protrusion just unscrews and comes off, and the rear element drops out as well, leaving a much shorter protrusion from the lens barrel. I was able to use just a very short extension ring to space this out to a safe distance, and since the lens becomes a "focus with your feet" design anyway, the reduction in maximum focus distance isn't really a problem.
Keep in mind though that without the rear element, it is just a single-element lens... So don't get your hopes up too high, it is really more of a novelty than anything.
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handz
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handz wrote:
Nothing new, there is H3T-1 with cheap m42 lens on ebay every week... |
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pulatom
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pulatom wrote:
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| If I get my hands on a 85/1.2 I'll try with sawing off the rear element, it should work alright for B&W photos, some sharpening can always be applied . |
Before you take the saw to it, try it without. The majority of the rear protrusion just unscrews and comes off, and the rear element drops out as well, leaving a much shorter protrusion from the lens barrel. I was able to use just a very short extension ring to space this out to a safe distance, and since the lens becomes a "focus with your feet" design anyway, the reduction in maximum focus distance isn't really a problem.
Keep in mind though that without the rear element, it is just a single-element lens... So don't get your hopes up too high, it is really more of a novelty than anything. |
We'll see, after all it's always fun to try something like this, it's probably the only M42 85mm lens with such a big aperture.
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Nothing new, there is H3T-1 with cheap m42 lens on ebay every week... |
I was thinking about selling mine with Helios 44-2, maybe I'll get some of the lens price back .
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
I'll ask again... Has anyone had a loose rear element in the Cyclop? Do you know how to open the back to secure the rear element?
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pulatom
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pulatom wrote:
Didn't disassembly that lens yet, but looks like you have to unscrew the three screws that show up when you set the closest focus distance, maybe then you'll have access to the rear element.
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Farside wrote:
There's going to be some really disappointed buyer if they're hoping for a Monster 
For what it's worth, I've fitted other M42 lenses on my Cyclops and they've all worked well enough as night sight lenses, even a crappy plastic Cosinon.
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Nordentro wrote:
Have anyone tested with a zoom lens?  Could be handy with a little bit of magnification on the nightvision
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pulatom
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pulatom wrote:
If you only could find a zoom lens with F2 aperture... .
BTW - just sold the body with Helios 44-2 for $55, looks like I spent only $35 on the lens itself  .
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