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Cyclop - The One-Eyed Monster
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does yours look like this? This is mine, except now detached from the night vision part and now without the tripod collar.



PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes it s the same, how did you removed the tripod ring? Did you managed to remone the back ring, the one with the largest diameter?


PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
tomasg: Nice to see you're putting the lens to good use! Very nice shots!


PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
tomasg wrote:
Yes it s the same, how did you removed the tripod ring? Did you managed to remone the back ring, the one with the largest diameter?

Yes,
see post on page 4 by Scheimpflug:
"to remove the ring, you need to loosen or remove all three of those tiny screws. The ring is actually threaded onto the lens body with very fine threads, so you unscrew the ring to remove it. It might be a bit stiff, as the three set screws have chewed up the threads."


PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanx Ovim Smile

the pictures are linked from my PC, so there is a great lost in contrast, saturation and sharpness, they look much better in "reality"

yes, it s a very challenging lens to work with, but when you nail everything it gives really unique results!


Blende8: thanx for the tip, yes it looked logical but was not so sure if i was right, i ll try to "wet" the screws a bit more, like you i think it would be much more practical to use the lens without the tripod ring

Tomas


PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You got the answer before I got to here. I couldn't use the lens on my camera until I removed that tripod ring. The three screws I was referring to are on the barrel and get either hidden or revealed by moving the focus ring. I wonder what those three screws do. These are much larger screws than what holds on the tripod ring.

Does anyone know if the rear most glass is an actual optic or just a cover? Mine is loose.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ovim wrote:
tomasg: Nice to see you're putting the lens to good use! Very nice shots!


+1, really awesome results tomasg Wink

The portraits are just stunning Very Happy


PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi everyone!
I bought a 85/1.5 version in mint condition for about 90$, and simply fell in love with it Smile. Although it's even harder to focus than Jupiter 9, the photos are certainly worth it. I was wondering about 85/1.2 version. Did anyone try to adopt it for an SLR? I mean, to do something with the rear part, screw it off, cut it off, or anything else so it won't block the mirror path Smile. I'm thinking about buying that piece of glass and tinkle with it, but there's a risk of destroying the lens so I won't be able to sell it Sad.
Cheers from PL
Tom


PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
pulatom wrote:
Hi everyone!
I bought a 85/1.5 version in mint condition for about 90$, and simply fell in love with it Smile. Although it's even harder to focus than Jupiter 9, the photos are certainly worth it. I was wondering about 85/1.2 version. Did anyone try to adopt it for an SLR? I mean, to do something with the rear part, screw it off, cut it off, or anything else so it won't block the mirror path Smile. I'm thinking about buying that piece of glass and tinkle with it, but there's a risk of destroying the lens so I won't be able to sell it Sad.
Cheers from PL
Tom


If the 85/1.2 with the rear protruberance is anything like my experience with the "wrong" sort of 85/1.5 (see my post on page 6 of this thread) then I wouldn;t even think about it Smile


PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems like only the 85/1.5 without the rear protruding piece has an acceptable IQ for taking photos Very Happy. But it'd be interesting to use 85/1.2 lens anyway. I'm fascinated with extremely shallow DOF lenses, and there aren't much of them for M42 mount (I only know 85/1.5 and a few 55/1.2).


PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
pulatom: Do you have pictures to share?


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So if this lense has the yellow coating it's safe to say it doesn't have the protruding rear? I'm eyeing a couple now on da bay.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
TBaker wrote:
So if this lense has the yellow coating it's safe to say it doesn't have the protruding rear? I'm eyeing a couple now on da bay.


That seems to be the general consensus, yes. Certainly my "yellow" pair had no protuberence.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I figure the "good" 85/1.5's have the "Cyclop" or "Циклоп" inscription on the front ring, the year of production can be also a clue (something between 1991-93?).

woodrim wrote:
pulatom: Do you have pictures to share?


From my first roll of film ("scanned" with compact point-and-shoot, digitally processed to B&W), not the sharpest one, but look at the bokeh Very Happy. Its low border resolution is sometimes quite annoying, especially on a full frame Razz.



PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
pulatom wrote:
Its low border resolution is sometimes quite annoying, especially on a full frame Razz.


Or it can be quite good fun, depending on your viewpoint Smile


IMG_9212 by MTB2011, on Flickr


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's great as long as you place the main subject in the center, or near the center. It acts somewhat like a permanent spot diffuser filter Very Happy. But I think the borders are acceptable for normal 10x15cm prints, especially when sharpened a little.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
You can make your own aperture diaphragm, just put a disc with a whole in front of the lens.


My Helios 40's iris was damaged beyond repair when I received it from Russia so I ripped out what was left of it, therefore leaving the lens stuck wide open at f1.5. I decided to try a waterford stop in place of the iris...Fortunately, its a doddle to remove the front element. I cut a piece of card into a circlular disk and then cut a circular hole out of the middle of the disk. The diameter of this hole was guesswork...I was hoping it would give somewhere between f5.6-f8. Then I pressed the disk into place inside the iris ring inside the lens. It worked very well. I took it out in the end and just use the lens wide open now.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Btw. has it been proven beyond doubt that the Cyclop has the same optics as the Helios 40?


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Awww, we got some snow today! So during my lunch break my lovely fiance made a snowman Smile



Crop:



Swirlies:



More swirlies:



Snow hugging:



One more:



All have a small amount of sharpening applied, apart from the 100% crop.

Love this lens Smile


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Splendid swirls! Nice girl. Which sensor?

Blende8: sure - i have opened both.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Super cool swirls indeed and very happy fiance!


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks guys, these were taken with my Canon EOS 5D.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Thanks guys, these were taken with my Canon EOS 5D.


Nicely done Smile


PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What a gorgeous lens,
mine arrived week ago, but it is so cold out there + no sun that I have not a good chance to test it well. But after little playing with them, ordering m42 adapter with a chip was a must:)

About a "which is the right one" debate - IMO
No rubber ring - you could easily see that some 1,5 ones have rubber sharpening ring. Those are the newer ones. Today my second one arrived - it has Blue / Yellow coating - but it is the good one also. It have russian letters on, other one I have have Latin letters and yellow only coating. Both have smooth surface.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Could you make a photo of the bluish type one? I have sen so many Cyclops but never has a blue coated been the "good" one.
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