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KhanX
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 Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: Which lens do you like for the bokeh? |
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KhanX wrote:
Hi my friend,
Just to know your opinion about the bokeh of the lens you love. Please select the pictures of the best bokeh of yours and tell me you lens. I'll hunt for it. 
Thank you for joining me.
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Tele : Canon FD 300mm f2.8 s.s.c. fluorite, Mamiya 645 500mm f5.6, Pentacon 500mm f5.6, Sigma APO 300mm f4 macro, Nikkor Reflex C 500mm f8, Canon FD 200mm f2.8 s.s.c., Rubinar 300mm f4.5 mirror
Macro : Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.8, Vivitar VMC 100mm f2.8 Macro, Panagor PMC 90mm f2.8, Edicar 90mm f2.8 Macro, Nikon Micro 55mm f3.5, Takumar 50mm f4 Macro, Nikon Non AI 55mm f3.5 Micro, SMC Takumar 100mm f4 macro, Canon FD 100mm f4 Macro, Canon FD 200mm f4 Macro, Volna-9 50mm f2.8
Short tele : Pentacon Six 120mm f2.8, Carl Zeiss Contax T* 100mm f2, Meyer optik Trioplan 100MM F2.8, Porst 135mm f1.8, Sigmatel ys 135mm f1.8, Schneider 135mm f3.5, Makinon 135mm f3.5, Komura 135mm f3.5, Hexanon 100mm f2.8, Schneider Variogon 80-240mm 4.5, Schneider 135mm f4
Normal : Canon 50mm f0.95, Schneider 50mm f0.95, Hexanon 57mm f1.2, Hexanon 40mm f1.8, Taylor hobson 50mm f1.8, Cooke Kinetal 50mm f1.8, Canon EF 28mm f2.8, Leica 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 Mega O.I.S., Carl Zeiss Contax Distagon 18mm f4, Carl Zeiss Contax Planar T* 50mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Contax 35mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 Macro, Yashica 35mm f2.8, Helios 44-2/58, Helios 85mm f1.5, Pentax SMC-M 50mm f1.4, Pentax SMC-F 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f1.7, Minolta MC PF Rokkor 50mm f1.4, Porst 28mm f2.8, Meyer - Optik Lydith 30mm f3.5, Nikon AIS 50mm f1.2, Tamron SP 28mm f2.8 adaptall, Pentax SMC Takumar 85mm f1.8, Vivitar Series 1 55mm f1.2, Canon FD 85mm f1.2L, Canon FD 55mm f1.2L, Angenieux 135mm f3.5, Cooke Kinetal 75mm f2.6, Steinheil 85mm f2.8, Leica M 50mm f2, Zeiss flextogon 35mm f2.4, Pancolar 50mm f1.8, Schneider Xenar 85mm f4
Wide : Leica Elmerit M 28mm f2.8 asph, Zeiss Contax 21mm f2.8, Zeiss Flextogon 20mm f2.8, Exakta 24mm f2.8 macro, Tokina 17mm f4 |
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KhanX
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KhanX wrote:
For me, now I love Dallmeyer Dalrac 135mm f4.5 M39 screw mount.
Camera : Canon 10D.
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Tele : Canon FD 300mm f2.8 s.s.c. fluorite, Mamiya 645 500mm f5.6, Pentacon 500mm f5.6, Sigma APO 300mm f4 macro, Nikkor Reflex C 500mm f8, Canon FD 200mm f2.8 s.s.c., Rubinar 300mm f4.5 mirror
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Short tele : Pentacon Six 120mm f2.8, Carl Zeiss Contax T* 100mm f2, Meyer optik Trioplan 100MM F2.8, Porst 135mm f1.8, Sigmatel ys 135mm f1.8, Schneider 135mm f3.5, Makinon 135mm f3.5, Komura 135mm f3.5, Hexanon 100mm f2.8, Schneider Variogon 80-240mm 4.5, Schneider 135mm f4
Normal : Canon 50mm f0.95, Schneider 50mm f0.95, Hexanon 57mm f1.2, Hexanon 40mm f1.8, Taylor hobson 50mm f1.8, Cooke Kinetal 50mm f1.8, Canon EF 28mm f2.8, Leica 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 Mega O.I.S., Carl Zeiss Contax Distagon 18mm f4, Carl Zeiss Contax Planar T* 50mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Contax 35mm f1.4, Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm f3.5-5.6 Macro, Yashica 35mm f2.8, Helios 44-2/58, Helios 85mm f1.5, Pentax SMC-M 50mm f1.4, Pentax SMC-F 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 28mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 35mm f2.8, Minolta MD Rokkor 50mm f1.7, Minolta MC PF Rokkor 50mm f1.4, Porst 28mm f2.8, Meyer - Optik Lydith 30mm f3.5, Nikon AIS 50mm f1.2, Tamron SP 28mm f2.8 adaptall, Pentax SMC Takumar 85mm f1.8, Vivitar Series 1 55mm f1.2, Canon FD 85mm f1.2L, Canon FD 55mm f1.2L, Angenieux 135mm f3.5, Cooke Kinetal 75mm f2.6, Steinheil 85mm f2.8, Leica M 50mm f2, Zeiss flextogon 35mm f2.4, Pancolar 50mm f1.8, Schneider Xenar 85mm f4
Wide : Leica Elmerit M 28mm f2.8 asph, Zeiss Contax 21mm f2.8, Zeiss Flextogon 20mm f2.8, Exakta 24mm f2.8 macro, Tokina 17mm f4 |
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Attila wrote:
I love first picture.
Helios 40 85mm f1.5
SMC TAKUMAR 85mm f1.8
Pentacon 135mm f2.8
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135mm
Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135mm f2.8
Micro Nikkor 200mm f4 |
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huhging
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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huhging wrote:
Tair 11-A (Excellent from 20 blades)
Rokkor 58/1.2
Volna-9
Leica R Summicron 90/2.0 (Nice transition from into and out of focus)
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
the best and ultimate: Volna-9 50/2.8 - creamy, soft, smooth, typical and unbeatable at f/2.8 
other lenses I like:
S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4
Biotar/Helios 58/2 and 50/1.8 (sometimes excellent, sometimes average)
Pancolar 80/1.8 (it's bokeh is so smooth, that I consider it almost boring )
Zenitar M2s 50/2 (I didn't use it too much, but it surprised me)
Meyer Telefogar 90/3.5 - 12 blades, very strong character, very retro- feel
Jupiter 37AM 135/3.5 - 12 blades, very soft bokeh
waits for testing:
Tair 11A 135/2.8
Biometar 80/2.8 M42
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Riku wrote:
Tair-11 133/2.8 or Tair-11A 135/2.8
MC Volna 50/2.8 macro
And..
MC Volna 50/1.8
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
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the best and ultimate: Volna-9 50/2.8 - creamy, soft, smooth, typical and unbeatable at f/2.8
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I don't own this lens, but I have been told it has a star-shaped iris. Is that true? I guess the bokeh is not as nice at f/5.6 
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hacksawbob wrote:
meyer/pentacon 135 1.8
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huhging
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huhging wrote:
That bokeh from MC Volna 50/1.8 looks wonderful.
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no-X
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no-X wrote:
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the best and ultimate: Volna-9 50/2.8 - creamy, soft, smooth, typical and unbeatable at f/2.8
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I don't own this lens, but I have been told it has a star-shaped iris. Is that true? I guess the bokeh is not as nice at f/5.6 |
Yes, can be quite ordinary when you close it down, but there is a lot of lenses, which have acceptable bokeh at f/5.6, but only one outshines them when wide-opened
here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/comparing-bokeh-on-my-50s-manual-focus-lenses-t8624.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/industar-61l-and-volna-9-t11656.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/love-my-volna-9-t9920.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/volna-9-vs-voigtlander-nokton-58mm-t9721.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/volna-9-t8437.html
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,103300.html#103300
as for star-shaped iris - depends on situations: sometimes creates smooth bokeh, sometimes not - but you can use it in creative way
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mUg wrote:
Hmm, that Volna is lovely
On an italian forum i've seen a photo taken with a Voigtlander Lanthar 180 APO, it seemed nice to me.
The first photo is taken with a Voigt 180 f4 (photo not taken by me)
http://www.photo4u.org/viewtopic.php?t=248899&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1520 |
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Esox lucius wrote:
I am so in love with my Zeiss Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
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Orio wrote:
Veijo has a copy of that lens, he likes it very much as far as I know.
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Orio wrote:
oops i was forgetting the Contax Planar 1.4/85:
The best "3D lens" in the world AFAIAC
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huhging wrote:
Leica 90/2.0
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huhging wrote:
I forgot about CV Apo Lanthar 125/2.5
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Attila wrote:
Really nice one this Leica, beautiful sample! |
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huhging wrote:
I haven't seen any star shaped bokeh yet with Volna-9.
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huhging wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Really nice one this Leica, beautiful sample! |
It's an honor to be complimented by a wonderful photographer as you.
I'm still a novice...
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Attila wrote:
Many thanks! |
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Attila wrote:
Planar 85mm f1.4 picture damn good Orio! |
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sichko wrote:
| huhging wrote: |
| I haven't seen any star shaped bokeh yet with Volna-9. |
Volna 9 ~ f/8 (?)
Industar 61 L/Z ~f/8 (?) (similar diaphragm)
Volna 9
100% crop
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Attila wrote:
Micro Nikkor 200mm f4
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Riku wrote:
Volna-9 has star shaped aperture from f4 to f8, "normal" aperture from f8 to f11 and perfectly round again at f16. Wide open the bokeh is exceptional... |
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