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fuzzywuzzy
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 1258 Location: Down East, Canada, eh?
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:46 am Post subject: Vivitar 135mm f2.8 T mount lens |
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
I got this Vivitar 135mm f2.8 T mount lens on Ebay a few days ago. It's my first mf only lens and I'm still getting a feel for manual focus and of course the lens itself.
I took a few tripod shots of a newspaper hanging over the back of a chair, that seems an unforgiving but fair test.
100% crop wide open at 2.8, text is legible
100% crop at f4, seems pretty sharp to me
I find shooting handheld is tricky, my body is a Canon crop sensor so it's an effective 216mm focal length. Here's a 100% crop of my daughter, taken handheld on a bright day. I don't recall the aperture, I'm used to having that stuff in the metadata...
That was my clearest shot of the day, but many of the rest were perfectly acceptable for anything but pixel peeping.
conclusion - well worth my $50 CDN.
If anyone knows anything about this lens I'd like to know when it was manufactured, and if this model has a good reputation.
If anyone is curious about the lens and wants me to take a test shot or two I'll try to oblige. |
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fuzzywuzzy
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 1258 Location: Down East, Canada, eh?
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:51 am Post subject: |
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
The pictures aren't showing up, is there a trick I'm missing? When I edit the post and preview they show up...
I drag and dropped them, using Firefox as my browser. |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11030 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Vivitar 135mm f2.8 T mount lens |
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visualopsins wrote:
fuzzywuzzy wrote: |
I got this Vivitar 135mm f2.8 T mount lens on Ebay a few days ago. It's my first mf only lens and I'm still getting a feel for manual focus and of course the lens itself.
I took a few tripod shots of a newspaper hanging over the back of a chair, that seems an unforgiving but fair test.
100% crop wide open at 2.8, text is legible
100% crop at f4, seems pretty sharp to me
I find shooting handheld is tricky, my body is a Canon crop sensor so it's an effective 216mm focal length. Here's a 100% crop of my daughter, taken handheld on a bright day. I don't recall the aperture, I'm used to having that stuff in the metadata...
That was my clearest shot of the day, but many of the rest were perfectly acceptable for anything but pixel peeping.
conclusion - well worth my $50 CDN.
If anyone knows anything about this lens I'd like to know when it was manufactured, and if this model has a good reputation.
If anyone is curious about the lens and wants me to take a test shot or two I'll try to oblige. |
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
I've got a few of the Vivitar 135mm presets and the are all sharp lens with good bokeh. Just be gentle with it as the Iris blades have been known to get crossed up and out of shape and in extreme cases bent or broken. I learned it the hard way so just use it gently and it will be fine. As to the date of manufacture go here for a look...Just scroll down to the Vivitar section and look for the 135mm preset lens.
http://homepage3.nifty.com/3rdpartylens-om/3rd-party-list.htm _________________ Big Dawg |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
These samples don't look like you have hit exact focus.
You should be getting better results even wide open for these 100% crop examples. I am sure this lens is capable of better.
The trick is to achieve critical focus, which is not at all easy with the shallow DOF of a tele lens wide open, and takes practice. It is hard even on film cameras, which are better equipped for it with proper groundglass and split image or microprism focusing aids.
Comparing 100% crops is a challenging standard, the film equivalent of which very few people bothered to do in the old days.
Also, as this is an old lens, you will get much better contrast and color with a deep hood. A good hood is a necessity. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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fuzzywuzzy
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 1258 Location: Down East, Canada, eh?
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
Very helpful comments folks.
Visualopsins - that makes sense, thanks.
Bigdawg - thanks for that link, it appears the lens could be as old as I am.
Luisalegria - I'll look into a lens hood, thanks. I was just noodling around, I suppose if I had a shot I cared about I could do wonders with the contrast in photoshop... but installing a lens hood once sounds a lot more time effective then fiddling with each shot in post-production
Hopefully my focus will improve with practice. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Your lens should have a blue and purple reflctions looked it form the front.
The single coat of it was good, but single coat.
1- As Luis said, use lens shade in all the circumstances.
2- Avoid the clear, iluminated and uniform background (like one iluminated white wall)
3- Avoid the light font (like the sun) into the image.
4- Avoid the bright foreground
That will increase the normal contrast of your lens.
Rino _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
I'm digging up an old thread here, but I just found one of these in a local shop. Like Big Dawg cautioned, this one did have one of its iris blades loose inside.
Does anyone know if this is a good lens? It is smaller and faster than my Soligor 135/3.5, and would be easier to use by being a preset with the aperture control located on the front end.
I didn't buy it, because I figured I should research it first, given that I would have to sink some repair time into it before I could use or test it. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Scheimpflug wrote: |
I'm digging up an old thread here, but I just found one of these in a local shop. Like Big Dawg cautioned, this one did have one of its iris blades loose inside.
Does anyone know if this is a good lens? It is smaller and faster than my Soligor 135/3.5, and would be easier to use by being a preset with the aperture control located on the front end.
I didn't buy it, because I figured I should research it first, given that I would have to sink some repair time into it before I could use or test it. |
Well if it's any help for film use:- I have a later Vivitar 135 f2.8 (Komine made) and would say my copy is good but not razor sharp i.e. my VG zooms can give equal or better....results for sharpness. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
A part of this "manufacturer still unidentified" series:
http://forum.mflenses.com/mistery-lenses-collection-t23606.html _________________ ---------------------------------
The Peculiar Apparatus Of Victorian Steampunk Photography: 100+ Genuine Steampunk Camera Designs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B92829NS |
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fuzzywuzzy
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 1258 Location: Down East, Canada, eh?
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
Scheimpflug wrote: |
I'm digging up an old thread here, but I just found one of these in a local shop. Like Big Dawg cautioned, this one did have one of its iris blades loose inside.
Does anyone know if this is a good lens? It is smaller and faster than my Soligor 135/3.5, and would be easier to use by being a preset with the aperture control located on the front end.
I didn't buy it, because I figured I should research it first, given that I would have to sink some repair time into it before I could use or test it. |
I haven't had good results from this lens. Here's the very best shots I managed - http://forum.mflenses.com/vivitar-135mm-f-2-8-t42107.html
My lens is clean and there's no obvious flaw with the optics. I might just have a bad copy or something is out of adjustment somewhere.
I really wanted to like this lens, it feels very solid and well built and I like the preset mechanism.
Lens needs a hood BTW. _________________ I welcome C&C, editing my pics and reposting them on the forum is fine.
NEX-F3
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CZJ Sonnar 135/4, Biotar 58/2, Pancolar 50/2, Tessar 50/2.8, Flek 35/2.8, Flek 25/4
Super Takumar 135/2.5, 135/3.5, 100/4 bellows, 50/1.4, 28/3.5
Helios 58/2, 3M-5A 500/8, Mir 20M
Vivitar Series 1 70-210 - - - - - - - - Nikkor 200/4
Rikenon 28/2.8 - - - - - - - - Zeiss 50/1.7 Planar
PB 50/2.4, 135/2.8
Yashica 50/1.9, 28/2.8, 135/2.8
Hexanon 28/3.5, 50/1.4 |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
These should be so cheap that it doesn't pay to buy one with problems. Many better choices available. I also have a Komine made auto model and while I don't know if it's "razor" sharp, it sure looks pretty good - and cheap too. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
For info, I've owned two copies of this lens and they were both terrible until stopped down to f5.6 or f8. The wide open sample in this thread is actually representative of this model! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Take a look on Jupiter-11, Jupiter-37 they are in same price range and don't need luck all works perfectly from wide open to F16. Usually this is true for all Russian lenses , they are in same cheap range than Japanese lenses , but result is not cheap at all. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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