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 Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 1:46 am Post subject: provia vs 400H |
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Nesster wrote:
there's a 4490 Epson scan of Provia, a bit expired, and a Dwayne's scan of 400H. I recall perhaps the Provia was with the 150 and the 400H with the 75... I do recall backing up further with the Provia (?) which may mean I changed lenses.
I suppose I ought to have done this scientifically, on a tripod with the same everything, not to mention the same scanner. But life's too short. 
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fish4570 wrote:
I do not know what you said, but according to my mildly red/green color blind eyes, there is a difference in hue of the Mustang's body paint ...
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Katastrofo wrote:
The first looks very close to what I get with Ektar. The 2nd is my pick of the
two, colors look very good. |
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Obviously the first one is Pro 400H. That film turns everything swamp green. Frankly, I hate it.
That's why recently I've been redscaling all my leftover Pro 400H films.
They're great 
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Pro%20400H%20redscale&w=88929764%40N00
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Orio wrote:
Easy to choose! The Fujipro 400H looks flat, the Provia looks 3D.
However, the expired Provia needed some magenta killing:
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fish4570 wrote:
How do you guys see such things?  No wonder I prefer black and white ... 
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| How do you guys see such things? No wonder I prefer black and white ... |
Well you can see the difference quite clearly on a monitor costing 99p to £12, if you don't join the "lemming" crowd...and the monitor? The Mitsubishi 22" CRT.........
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Nesster wrote:
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Easy to choose! The Fujipro 400H looks flat, the Provia looks 3D.
However, the expired Provia needed some magenta killing:
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Thanks Orio - last night I was struggling with how to kill the magenta, but couldn't get it to go. What did you do?
Someone at pentax forums corrected the 400H:
To my surprise I could get the 400H green to become less so easier than getting the magenta out from the Provia. I still like 400H, though this compare brought out the degree of the swamp in it, for shooting in new york city for example.
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fish4570 wrote:
I've got a very good 17.2-inch monitor on the new Toshiba. I can see differences, but I couldn't tell you which image is more realistic based on memory of the original, because I would have seen the original in a somewhat false hue anyhow ...
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My monitor isn't very well calibrated, but even so I could see a distinct "unfinished project" cast across most of the image. I tried to correct it the best I could. 
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Nesster wrote:
 That's the best correction yet!
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Thanks Orio - last night I was struggling with how to kill the magenta, but couldn't get it to go. What did you do? |
Super simply: I just loaded the picture in Bibble 5 and moved the magenta-green balance slider of +8 value.
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Beautiful classic muscle car!!  Always had a crush on that...
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fish4570 wrote:
To my eyes, none of the hue iterations matches Mustang red from that era. Of course, the original paint woul be about 43 years old now ...
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Nesster wrote:
One more - color corrected - Provia, 150mm, P645
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Orio wrote:
Is it common in the USA to have these places with dead cars abandoned?
I wonder, because here it's not allowed. Sometimes you can still find one, but very rarely. Law prescribes that you must dump broken cars in legally allowed deposits for destruction (and also pay for that).
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Nesster wrote:
These are in the parking lot of a volunteer fire dept - the same one that the camera show is in (hence, lots of photos of wrecked cars)
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fish4570 wrote:
That 'stang is not dead. It is just having a rest ...
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| To my eyes, none of the hue iterations matches Mustang red from that era. Of course, the original paint woul be about 43 years old now ... |
| Nesster wrote: |
One more - color corrected - Provia, 150mm, P645
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Looks like there is overspray on the vent window and the door handle. I suppose that answers the "original paint" question?
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