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Nikon FM series: What can you tell me?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And diopters for the Pentax K & M series bodies are available as well, both factory originals and aftermarket. Wink


PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish4570 wrote:

I much like my SP1000 and the M42 mount.
If I were to switch systems, I would get a normal lens and a fast-ish 35 or 28 or 24 ...


My thoughts exactly when I bought the FE... only I didn't manage to sell any M42 stuff... yet Laughing

The drawbacks with Pentax is that the regular lenses are very very good and cheap and plentiful. But prices go up steeply for the f/2's and even f/2.8's depending on focal length. And a Pentax 24mm?

Nikkor, relatively speaking, has a plentiful supply of wide angles, and you need to get pretty exotic before prices really take off. So you can find a 35/2 cheaper than Pentax, for example. And Nikon, to my mind, makes very nice wides, closer focusing than Pentax.

So that's the main case for Nikon. The FE by the way does manual metering as well as the Pentax KX, viewfinder wise, though of course the shutter needs the battery.

I'm sure there's a case to be made for Canon, the adaptability of the mount and quality of glass... I've made a policy decision to boycott Canon however due to their periodic abandonment of their mounts.

And do not forget Konica.

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Apart from faster short lenses, what else are you looking for?


PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's it, Jussi. I don't care much for teles. As for "portraits," I always can get closer with a normal. Anything physically much longer than a prime adds to the tremor issue.
The reasons for a little speed with a moderate wide are more light for focusing ease wide-open, and higher shutter speed. The FM eyepiece looks gigantic compared to the SP's, which leads me to believe the viewfinder is stinking bright ...


PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul, the 2 series - FM2 and FE2 - have about a stop or so brighter vf than the FM and FE - but of course aren't compatible with pre-AI lenses, which puts a slight premium on the lens costs.

I'm with you on the teles, my limit is 105mm, with 135 I'm pushing it. So why do I have so many dagnam 135s? I'll have to do a 'test' and then sell or give them away.

I do still suggest the Pentax KX, as with the K mount you at least have a Pentax digital in your future.


PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there are several posts here I'd like to comment on, but I'll try to keep it brief.

Paul, it is not always a good idea to get closer with a normal lens for portraiture. The reason why portraitists prefer lenses in the 85mm to 135mm range is because they minimize distortion. Even a normal lens will distort a person's features somewhat in a perhaps unflattering manner, albeit to a lesser degree than a wide-angle will. Short teles provide a slight compression effect, which is generally considered to be more flattering (shortens the nose somewhat instead of lengthening it, for example).

My personal favorite for portraiture is the Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, which is a bit too much compression for some folks. But I've just had really good results with mine.

I agree with much of what Nesster posted. The FM's vf may seem to be bright compared to a SP, but it isn't as bright as that in an FM2/FE2. Unfortunately, the FM does not have interchangeable focusing screens. This is one reason why I prefer the FE over the FM. I can install an FE2 focusing screen in my FE and have the same brightness. I also prefer the FE's match-needle metering method, which is very similar to that of the KX and even the Canon FTb. To me, the fact that the FE is battery dependent isn't a significant issue with the type of photography I do. Those button cells last for years, and unless I'm out in sub-freezing temperatures, I've never had issues with battery failure.

Apologies, Nesster, but I think it is silly to continue to boycott Canon for a mount-switch decision they made some 24 years ago. Prior to that Canon made NO changes to their physical mount. Going all the way back to the "R" system of the early 1960s, the mounts are the same -- just the metering methods changed. Compare that to the blizzard of metering method changes that Nikon has made while keeping their F mount, and all the incompatibility issues resulting from this, and honestly I think Canon's direction is the more simple. It's just unfortunate that FD glass cannot be used with EOS, but it can still be used with many excellent FD film cameras. And I take some small amount of comfort in that, since I still enjoy using my old Canon SLRs. And this non-path to digital (except u4/3, of course) may all soon be a moot point anyway with the advent of the Sony NEX series and no-doubt many others to come in the near future.

The Pentax KX has been mentioned a few times. As I mentioned previously, this is my favorite K-mount Pentax. All mechanical, the battery powers the meter only. Match-needle method. Mirror lock-up. Just a very nice, rugged, mechanical camera. About the same size and weight, and equivalent level of features compared to the Canon FTb, which is probably my 2nd-favorite FD Canon. As has been mentioned, the advantage to a KX, besides what I've mentioned above, is the fact that it's K-mount and M42 lenses can be used with adapters. Plus if you go digital Pentax, you can still use your lenses. But this is also true if you go the EOS route, far as that goes.

One of the seldom mentioned advantages to the old Canon FD mount is that one can use adapters for M42, Pentax K, and Nikon F to mount these lenses on FD bodies. I have an M42 and Nikon F adapter that I occasionally use with my FD cameras.


PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will check out the KX. I am utterly unfamiliar with it. I was out of the film loop for so long, whole generations of models have gone by ...


PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found a KX on the bay with an f4/100mm Pentax macro lens aboard.
Whatcha think?

As for switching to a longer lens for portraits, cool, using a long lens adds to the hand tremors with which I have to deal. A real short tele would be good, but costly. Besides, I don't get THAT close ... Very Happy


PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish4570 wrote:
Found a KX on the bay with an f4/100mm Pentax macro lens aboard.
Whatcha think?

As for switching to a longer lens for portraits, cool, using a long lens adds to the hand tremors with which I have to deal. A real short tele would be good, but costly. Besides, I don't get THAT close ... Very Happy


Welp, you didn't post a link for the auction, so it's kinda hard to say . . . But the fact that it has the 100mm macro attached will add a premium to the price, no doubt. Far as that goes, that 100 macro will probably make a great portrait lens . . . as long as your subjects don't mind counting the pores in their skin Cool

Well, you probably know the old 1/focal length rule as a minimum shutter speed. For most portrait lenses, that's gonna be a minimum of 1/125. But if you're using a flash, it's not gonna matter cuz the flash will freeze the action or eliminate shake-induced blur because of its extremely short duration.


PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Don't use flash, either.
I yam what I yam ... Very Happy
Another thing: I am getting off coffee/caffeine again. I am not supposed to have caffeine anyhow for mitral valve prolapse, so that will remove any caffeine-induced shakes.
My shots have been looking much sharper since I gave up the ultralight Bessa R and went to heavier cameras ...


PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes -- camera weight. That's a subject that people often overlook when camera shake is discussed. I've always been an advocate of heavier gear, believing that its weight damps down jitters that lightweight gear will transmit.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purr-zackly ...