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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject: Nikon D7000 DXOMark |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Looks like another cracker with the Sony sensor. Pentax have the slight upper hand with dynamic range and colour, but Nikon have improved high ISO performance marginally over the K-5...
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-Sensor/All-tested-sensors/Nikon/D7000 _________________ Graham - Moderator
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my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:00 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
Any idea how come a lot of the charts, the ISO starts with less than 100? _________________
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I think base ISO is 80 on that sensor isn't it? _________________ Graham - Moderator
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Geoff C. Bassett
Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Posts: 157 Location: Chatham, MA
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Geoff C. Bassett wrote:
my_photography wrote: |
Any idea how come a lot of the charts, the ISO starts with less than 100? |
They measure the actual ISO at base. So in this case the 100 on the camera is really ~80 on their tests.
I have been using the camera for the past month, and it has completely blown me away. It's absolutely insane in low light situations, usable for print up to 3600 and web to 6400.
I love the focus indicator on the lower left of the viewfinder that tells me how off my focus is and whether it is in front or behind. It seriously discourages me from getting non-mf lenses.
[/img] _________________ Opticlust.com |
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon D7000 DXOMark |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Where did you read that? The DxOmark data indicates that the Pentax K-5 is better in the high-ISO realm, but not by much. They are using the same sensor...
It's a very nice cam though! _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon D7000 DXOMark |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
Where did you read that? The DxOmark data indicates that the Pentax K-5 is better in the high-ISO realm, but not by much. They are using the same sensor...
It's a very nice cam though! |
Well the sports score was 1162 for Pentax and 1167 for Nikon _________________ Graham - Moderator
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon D7000 DXOMark |
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Spotmatic wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Spotmatic wrote: |
Where did you read that? The DxOmark data indicates that the Pentax K-5 is better in the high-ISO realm, but not by much. They are using the same sensor...
It's a very nice cam though! |
Well the sports score was 1162 for Pentax and 1167 for Nikon |
Haha, so it's definitely sample variation. I don't doubt at all that the D7000 and the K-5 are using the same sensor, despite what Nikon says about it being made to Nikon specifications. _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
[quote="Geoff C. Bassett"]
my_photography wrote: |
I love the focus indicator on the lower left of the viewfinder that tells me how off my focus is and whether it is in front or behind. It seriously discourages me from getting non-mf lenses.
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Now that's a nice gadget to have. Looks like the dslr is finally coming into its own _________________ -Jussi
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
[quote="Nesster"]
Geoff C. Bassett wrote: |
my_photography wrote: |
I love the focus indicator on the lower left of the viewfinder that tells me how off my focus is and whether it is in front or behind. It seriously discourages me from getting non-mf lenses.
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Now that's a nice gadget to have. Looks like the dslr is finally coming into its own |
Nikon call the "gadget" a "rangefinder". It's been around for a while. On low level cameras it only works with "chipped" lenses (AFS, AFD, etc. and, I think, those with external chips such as the dandelion). _________________ John |
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AussieBob
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 49 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:55 am Post subject: |
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AussieBob wrote:
I use an old Nikon D50 which only has the green focus confirmation dot. It works with all my manual focus unchipped lenses & is spot on with every one of them. I have heard reports that the dot is not very accurate but since using this camera, ALL of my shots have been in sharp focus. It is certainly better than nothing. Apparently the better cameras have a >o< arrangement for manual focussing which is easier to use. |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
The pentaxes (though I don't know about the latest models) have the green dot only, and it can be inaccurate. _________________ -Jussi
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
AussieBob wrote: |
Apparently the better cameras have a >o< arrangement for manual focussing which is easier to use. |
It's funny how features come and go on cameras... My Pentax ME-F from the early 80s has the >o< focus indicators.
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Geoff C. Bassett
Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Posts: 157 Location: Chatham, MA
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon D7000 DXOMark |
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Geoff C. Bassett wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Spotmatic wrote: |
Where did you read that? The DxOmark data indicates that the Pentax K-5 is better in the high-ISO realm, but not by much. They are using the same sensor...
It's a very nice cam though! |
Well the sports score was 1162 for Pentax and 1167 for Nikon |
Haha, so it's definitely sample variation. I don't doubt at all that the D7000 and the K-5 are using the same sensor, despite what Nikon says about it being made to Nikon specifications. |
Definitely sample variations and lenses play a factor as well. This is ISO 6400 @ 1/60 Taken with a 50mm Nikon Series E f/1.8 @ f/2.8. In body noise reduction on. _________________ Opticlust.com |
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blende8
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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blende8 wrote:
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That's very interesting. I didn't know that.
Does anybody know how this worked?
What is the "focus selector" good for (image 1) and what is on page 31? _________________ Best wishes, Wieland
K-1, K-5IIs
Pentax, mysterium quod absconditum fuit ... |
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