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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:47 am Post subject: Astronar 5.5 300mm any opinions |
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mo wrote:
Just bought this lens anyone used it?The price was right  not sure on condition as it has not arrived yet.
Click here to see on Ebay
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luisalegria wrote:
Same as this -
http://forum.mflenses.com/caspeco-old-tokina-300-5-5-preset-t2-mount-t12261,highlight,tokina+300.html
Pretty good on the whole, long minimum focus. Get some extension rings.
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luisalegria wrote:
I take it back - it isn't like mine.
Its modelled after that classic old preset Tokina but its made by someone else. The dimensions are different, different engraving and it focuses the other way.
I'm going to guess the maker is Sankor. I have not tried this one.
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mo wrote:
Thanks,I just realised I don't know what the mount is so it will be interesting when it gets here 
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:15 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
nice catch! looks like a well-made preset T-mount lens.
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mo wrote:
That would be good I have the m42 mount for the T mount.on the same day there was the same brand in a 135mm but I missed it  different seller.
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mo wrote:
Lens received but looks like a damaged mount see the pictures the mount removes from the lens but not in the way it is meant to...it looks like the grub screws are not holding it to the lens there are 3 of them and from past experience with these type of screws they hold things in place...any opinions on a fix?I have an idea what to do but will see what you say.Clear glass but for one spot of fungus and possible separation around the front element...but not where it counts.For the price of this lens I will keep it and try to fix it so i can use it.Do you see anything else wrong that I may have missed??
#2 The mount when sitting on the lens ..note the gap it is very unstable for a quick fix I would need to tape it to the mount then use it on a tripod.
#3Pulled the mount end off.
#4 note the little brass screw that has to come out more to catch on the other bit of the mount.
#5 The 2 pieces
#6The mount that can screw into the camera
#7The other side that the little brass screw should sit in this indent to hold everything in place.There are 3 similar around the rim.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I've seen this type of mount several times before. Sometimes they have a screw in bit in the middle, which when removed reveals that the mount is actually a t-mount.
In this case, I suspect the mount is very similar to a t-mount and is the same type as my Aetna Coligon, made by Sankor. If this is correct, Luis is spot on once again. I replaced my mount of this type (but for Exakta) with another from an M42 Prinz Galaxy branded lens, so it seems they were interchangable 
See here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/mystery-lens-aetna-coligon-100-2-5-t17473,highlight,aetna.html
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I think you are right in the T mount aspect but it should not remove from the lens where it does There is no stability when it is attached to the camera and infinity does seem to be off a fraction....I don't have the right screw driver at the moment to investigate further.
I have an screw mount T adapter and a K/m T adapter so I see what you mean about the bit in the middle 
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
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#4 note the little brass screw that has to come out more to catch on the other bit of the mount.
#7The other side that the little brass screw should sit in this indent to hold everything in place.There are 3 similar around the rim.
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Based on these two photos, it would appear as though this assembly is impossible to put back together?  If you let those little screws come out a bit to catch those indentations, then the tolerances would be too tight - you wouldn't be able to put the mount piece back in.
However, putting on the detective hat, it looks like the mount piece doesn't have any scrapes or marks between the indent and the lip... which means that it wasn't forced on by the manufacturer.
This makes me think that the flat ring inside the lens (the one with the three screws) somehow comes out, and the screws can then be tightened against your mount piece from the opposite side. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I just pulled off the piece below the tripod ring (picture #5) and under that there are 3 screws that indeed tighten onto that indent but once you but the mount on and tighten everything up you CAN NOT put the little piece back on under the tripod ring???.....do you think the tripod ring is the correct one?
Frustrating part is I do not have a big enough screw driver to see if I can unscrew the 3 screws from the side of the mount.  and dismantle that to see if it will work that way.
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| This makes me think that the flat ring inside the lens (the one with the three screws) somehow comes out, and the screws can then be tightened against your mount piece from the opposite side. |
Hmmm Just re read this part will have a look when I am ready to tackle the minute grub screws again ...tricky little sods to get back in
This is what I slid off from under the tripod collar
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Can you take another photo of what else you disassembled, and what you are going to try to unscrew next?
I think those three little screws should be pretty easy to tighten... once you pull out the ring that doesn't come out.
But seriously... I think it comes out. I just have no idea how. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:25 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
That makes two of us The kids are still up and I get stressed when I do these things so give me some time and I will take the photos.I nearly lost the screws twice so still recovering from that.....I broke one lens already from my rushing so this time I am going to take my time...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:23 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Success!!! You had to unscrew the knurled/ribbed ring then remove it from the mount by taking out the 3 screws then slide the bit from under the tripod ring over the mount then you had perfect access to tighten those other 3 screws then slide it back over put its screws back in then just replace the knurled/ribbed mount ring...so happy it worked!!
#1Removed the first screw from the Knurled/ribbed mount ring
#2 Slid off the "piece" to get access to the 3 hidden screws which when tightened hold the mount firmly in place....WOO HOO!!!!
To say I am a happy chappy is an understatement  I don't think it is a T mount after taking it apart it is just M42.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
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| That makes two of us The kids are still up and I get stressed when I do these things so give me some time and I will take the photos.I nearly lost the screws twice so still recovering from that..... |
Haha.
My secret is to always take lenses apart on the edge of a tall table over carpet. That way, when I drop the little screws, they are guaranteed to be lost forever. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
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| To say I am a happy chappy is an understatement I don't think it is a T mount after taking it apart it is just M42. |
Nice work! 
So does that mean that it is all fixed? Good as new? Ready to take some test shots? |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:56 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Yes already done while the lens was still fragile....
but now I know it won't fall off the camera
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That makes two of us Very Happy The kids are still up and I get stressed when I do these things so give me some time and I will take the photos.I nearly lost the screws twice so still recovering from that.....
Haha. Very Happy
My secret is to always take lenses apart on the edge of a tall table over carpet. That way, when I drop the little screws, they are guaranteed to be lost forever. Very Happy |
I thought that was the secret I followed that plan to the letter without losing the screws!!
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Just connecting some topics in case anyone in the future stumbles onto this by a search. 
All three of these lenses appear to be very similar:
Mo's Astronar 300mm f5.5: [this thread]
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The Safari 300mm f5.5 that I didn't purchase: http://forum.mflenses.com/safari-brand-lenses-t28231.html
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Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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