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Attila
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 Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: Helios-44 5,8cm f/2 Exakta |
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Attila wrote:
Today I found this lens I believe it made on Zeiss machineries right after WW2 or before ? Look at the serial number !
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Wow this one is old !!
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rick_oleson
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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rick_oleson wrote:
surely it wouldn't be prewar.... the helios-44 is a zeiss biotar formula obtained as war reparations, right? and then it's coated..... |
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I guess made after WWII , but not sure.Perhaps they licensed too same than Leica copies don't know.
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Borges
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Borges wrote:
Sorry guys, never seen or even heard of a Helios 44 for rangefinder. I think this is a Helios 44 for START-Mount, produced from 1958 to 1964.
I'm not sure about the meaning of the serial number. Perhaps a pre- oder special series (normally marked with "0..." someone told me). Or START stuff simply started with 0?
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This one is started with Exakta external push button, do you know what is this date ?
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Borges
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Borges wrote:
As far as I know all START Bayonet lens have this exakta-style.
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rick_oleson
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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rick_oleson wrote:
Just going from memory, I think the Exakta external auto diaphragm system began around 1954. Even preset diaphragms, I think, don't go back farther than about 1950-51. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Okay, seems we don't know how old this lens but seems around from the beginning of 1950th, because focal length in cm and it has external button. Is it right ?
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Borges wrote:
Do you have a princelle in reach? 
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Funny thanks!
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Scheimpflug
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Attila - Just wondering, were you ever able to test or make use of this lens? 
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/russian_lens/Helios/helios_44_58mm_f2_star/
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Scheimpflug
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Thanks. Were you able to find an adapter for it, or did you just hold it in front of your camera? How would you say it compares to the later Helios-44 models?
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