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fish4570
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 Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: what is a good COMPACT m42 28mm? |
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fish4570 wrote:
my elderly spiratone 28/2.8 - quite close focusing - is very good despite diminishing coatings, but it looks like andre the giant on my tiny st605.
nominations, please?
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Nesster wrote:
The Takumar 3.5 in any variant is exceptional, but you do have the 3.5 maximum aperture...
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seta666
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seta666 wrote:
If you do not mind 30mm
I would say pentacon 30mm 3.5 Lydith. Has ten blades, very sharp
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
Tokina 28mm 2.8, compact, but no A/M switch (not needed for the Fujica) |
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Vivitar 28/2.8 with the 28xxxxx serial number, or Tamron Adaptall 2 28/2.5.
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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
interesting suggestions. the takumar 28/3.5 is all over ebay, $50-$100, but i'd rather have more light by which to focus ... 
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Esox lucius wrote:
My vote for the 28/3.5 SMC Takumar as well, I have a friend who uses it to create some amazing heavy metal band promo photos.
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Nesster
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Nesster wrote:
Though I have no direct experience, and the prices may be a bit high for you...
the silver Yashinon, if it is anything like the 35mm, should be excellent:
Click here to see on Ebay
The Hoya has a good rep and I read some glowing review in Pop/Modern photo when they were released... Tho, I'm not sure I recall if this one was one of the reviewed lenses, I do know the 135 results beat Takumar
Click here to see on Ebay
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fish4570
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fish4570 wrote:
jussi, i just saw that item on ebay. interesting ...
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Ensinor/Clubman 2.8/24mm. It's got good close focus ability too.
If budget permits, Takumar!
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WallyJr74 wrote:
Sigma Mini-Wide Macro 28/2.8 is pretty good.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Sigma-Mini-Wide-Macro-28mm-1-2-8-in-very-good-condition_W0QQitemZ230374113564QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Lenses?hash=item35a35e011c#ht_3339wt_939
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Manolo Portillo
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Manolo Portillo wrote:
S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm. Probably the best M42 28mm lens. |
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Nesster
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
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| S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm. Probably the best M42 28mm lens. |
There are several votes for this lens - mine included. Don't let the 3.5 aperture hold you back, it's not horrible  And with some careful shopping you can get one for $40 or so. Just ride the ebay waves...
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DSG
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: what is a good COMPACT m42 28mm? |
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my elderly spiratone 28/2.8 - quite close focusing - is very good despite diminishing coatings, but it looks like andre the giant on my tiny st605.
nominations, please? |
You wont get a better 28mm than the C/Y mount Carl Zeiss 28mm f2.8 Distagon T* and yet supprsingly they often sell for M42 lens prices.
Its a very light and compact lens and its possible to convert one to M42 mount.  |
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Kram
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Kram wrote:
I'm searching for a good/cheap wide in M42 also. I could do Nikkor mount too.
My old NIPPON NIKKOR-H AUTO 3.5 28MM has the worst CA I've ever seen.
Not to go off topic... but... any thoughts on the Nikkor 24mm 2.8? |
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Orio wrote:
Tamron 2.5/28 Adaptall 2
very compact, very sharp once stopped down. At full aperture it vignettes visibly.
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
I agree Orio, thats a fine lens and compact too. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| Vivitar 28/2.8 with the 28xxxxx serial number, or Tamron Adaptall 2 28/2.5. |
| Orio wrote: |
Tamron 2.5/28 Adaptall 2
very compact, very sharp once stopped down. At full aperture it vignettes visibly. |
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| I agree Orio, thats a fine lens and compact too. |
That's three votes for the Tamron 28/2.5... Is the f/2.5 lens smaller (or better) than the f/2.8?
I have the Tamron 28/2.8, and it is noticeably more compact than my other 28mm lenses. The Tamron is the lens on the left:
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fish4570
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:58 am Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
quite a size difference there. thanks for the visual comparison ...
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:32 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
My Adaptall 2 28/2.5 is noticably sharper than my Adaptall 28/2.8. It's also a touch smaller 
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| Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Hmm, I might have to look for one of those now. 
Would you mind taking a picture of the two side-by-side?
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fatdeeman
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fatdeeman wrote:
| Scheimpflug wrote: |
That's three votes for the Tamron 28/2.5... Is the f/2.5 lens smaller (or better) than the f/2.8?
I have the Tamron 28/2.8, and it is noticeably more compact than my other 28mm lenses. The Tamron is the lens on the left |
I'd say it was smaller and a bit better, I have both and the f/2.5 seems to be sharper, especially at larger apertures.
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keltzar wrote:
Kiron 24/2.0 or 28/2.0 |
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