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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject: Rodenstock Omegaron 35mm f4 wide angle enlarger lens |
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Attila wrote:
I found this lens today it did pickup my interest due first wide angle enlarger lens what I seen. Any experience ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Rodenstock Omegaron 35mm f4 wide angle enlarger lens |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I found this lens today it did pickup my interest due first wide angle enlarger lens what I seen. Any experience ? |
I was looking for one of these myself a while ago.
Generally speaking the focal lengths less than 50mm are limited in coverage, so they are not suitable for enlarging full-size 24x36 35mm (135 format) negatives. These are lenses which were designed for the "sub-miniature" sizes - 16mm, 8mm, 110 format, Minox, etc, or perhaps 35mm half-frame negatives. Available focal lengths were 40mm, 38mm, 35mm, 30mm, 28mm, 25mm... with just a few 20mm and I think even a 15mm was available at one time for the Minox.
The "wide-angle" variants have a bit more coverage though, so you can use them just a bit outside of the "normal" ranges. I believe the 40mm WA variants were typically OK for full 24x36 frames, although I remember one that was only recommended for 24x24. For the 35mm focal length, I'm not sure if you could get a full frame - perhaps so if you are willing to accept vignetting or other optical issues in the corners.
Hope that helps. I might have a datasheet for this lens, I'll have to do some digging though to find it. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
If you use them for macro work, then you have to get really close to the subject. The Omegaron range by Rodenstock was made for the Omega enlarger, I believe, and so will not be their top (excellent) quality.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you guys! I will try to make some macro shoots with this lens, nothing else in plan. _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Click on them to get higher resolution images!
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I have it (two actually) and it is not a bad, but also no exceptional lens.
[I have the original Rodenstock version and not the rebatched Omage version, but the lens is the same optically]
Same IQ you show in your images Orio. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
I have bought a few (well, over 20 actually) inexpensive enlarger lenses (EL's), including Apos, Eastman, Ilex, Industar, Komura, Leitz, Novoflex, Rodenstock, Schneider, Steinheil, Vivitar, Wollensak, etc. I find that 50's are common and cheap on eBay, 75's are very common and dirt cheap, and 35's are rare and mostly costly, even the indifferent ones. I felt fortunate to buy a Spiratone 35/3.5 for only US$15 because the same lens sold for TEN TIMES (10X) THAT MUCH just a couple weeks earlier.
Most EL's under 50mm that I have seen, list and sell for prices I think are much too high -- for me, anyway. (But I'm a cheap bastard!) Especially since I get similar results by mount-reversing a camera lens. Reversed, such show the edge-to-edge flatfield sharpness I want with EL's.
Even cheap crappy camera lenses improve when reversed. I recently tried a Pentax SMC-A 35-80/4-5.6, among the worst lenses Pentax ever sold. Reversed, its images are quite decent, except for a bit of fringing in extreme contrast conditions. This zoom (reversed) reaches 2x / 2:1 magnification at 35mm, will focus close at all focal lengths, and at 70-80mm will even focus to or past infinity. I think my next 'macro-zoom' may be a short manual zoom in some neglected mount, maybe Miranda or Konica, only to be used reversed. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
What is your favorite from all ? _________________ -------------------------------
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
Attila wrote: |
What is your favorite from all ? |
Which of my children is my favorite?!?!? I love them all!!
My *real* favorite is the Schneider Betavaron 50-125/4-5.6 enlarger zoom, a heavy (810g) masterpiece. I need the right focusing helicoid (~30-90mm) to make it a perfect all-purpose lens.
My newest is a Leitz Varob 50/3.5, which I haven't tried much yet -- I will use it on my upcoming journey. I have read that it is an Elmar.
What I do use the most are the Wollensak Enlarging Raptars 75/4.5 and 162/4.5; Apos Elgeet Colorstigmat 90/4.5; Novoflex Noflexar 105/3.5; and Ilex Solar Anastigmat 140/4.5. Probably the Noflexar gets the most use, don't ask me why, it just calls out to me. The Wollensaks are sharp but a little low in contrast.
I also use my Industar-58 75/3.5 for a very specific purpose. It is a small lens at the bottom of a big heavy black cone (470g). I have mounted it on cheap PK macro tubes for a fixed focus of ~1m. It is an ideal headshot portrait lens, although it is a bit frightening -- subjects shot with it tend to look somewhat nervous.
And what is YOUR favorite enlarging lens? _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I have Schneider Comparon 4/50mm that is a beautiful tiny lens, it's actually C mount with a c-m39 step up ring screwed on. Has a ton of blades, at least 15 I think, hard to count them.
I also have a Schneider Componar 4.5/75mm that only has 4 blades so has a square iris, it feels a lot lighter and cheaper than the Comparon, it's als a c mount lens with an M39 step-up adapter.
My fave though is the Schneider-Kreuznach Componon f/5.6 80mm M39, extremely sharp from corner to corner but glares a lot so needs a deep hood.
I also have a Rodenstock Rodagon f/5.6 80mm in M39 but it has two chips out of the back element, no tried it to see if they are noticeable but I bet they are and they are pretty severe, someone has dropped it on a hard surface and the rear element protrudes slightly. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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