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nmrecording
Joined: 08 May 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject: M42 k mount bower adapter Stuck |
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nmrecording wrote:
Im sure youve heard this 1000 times but ive got a serious issue here.
Ive spent over 10 hours trying to get this thing off my k20D and it will not
It can turn about 75-90 degrees but it wont get to the point where it actually releases
it also wont lock tite, no matter what lens I stick on it will still rotate freely about 75-90 degrees (estimated) so I have to kind of hold it in place
Im not sure what happened as ive used it several times with no problem and the last time it just wouldnt click into place to secure it and also wont remove.
I know all about the locking spring mounted pin and trust me ive tried everything here, depressing it DOES NOT work, and doesnt make a difference
Im at a point where Im about ready to pull out the chainsaw and getting my revenge
i use about 7 m42 lenses and 9 k mount lenses so it needs to come off.
Does anyone know if repair shops can help remove this or if i can send it back to pentax (its under warranty but this is obviously not a warranty issue)
how much do u think pro repair will cost? Im not even sure if they can remove it as I said ive tried for over ten hours. its been stuck on a week and also every time i mess with it its spitting metal shavings inside my camera. looking in the viewfinder it looks like someone dumped coffee grounds inside (terrible) alas none of it is coming up on the images so it must not be directly on the sensor. Ive tried mirror lock up and blowing to remove the flakes but they arent coming (very scary)
So you have any ideas or suggestions? im at wits end.
Ive tried multiple forums and i just get re routed to this one so hopefully u guys can come up with an answer.
it gets to the point it wants to come off but it just wont budge further and like I said the adapter freely rotates instead of locking in place. Is it turned around or something? I cant seem to get it to rotate any further incase it went past the correct release point.
im not even sure what to try or what is causing it as the releasing pin pushing, pulling, pressing, depressing, jigglign and jarring the mechanism doesnt seem to help at all. Same problem and its not getting me anywhere
Soon as this thing comes off im sending it to the company and letting them know how terrible they are (im sure they get tons of hate mail already)
as i see people all over with the same problem, unfortunately no one seems to post up the solutions, just disband the forum once they get it off and move along. The other posts ive seen on this website and others i have tried but have not received any luck from those solutions
thanks for listenikng and hopefully u have a solution that doesnt require an axe or chainsaw.. its getting close to that |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Try to rotate it forward rather than back, to the next K mount slot, where you can remove it. Happened to me also, and sometimes going forward is better than backwards. With the lens in may help _________________ -Jussi
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nmrecording
Joined: 08 May 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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nmrecording wrote:
ive tried rotating it in both directions and it seems that one side is looser when its turned clockwise opposed to coutner clockwise however either way it still gets to a point where it wont turn any further |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
It came with a key to help it go - use tiny pliers or long fingernail, and probe for the spring loaded locking bit in one of the slots. Try moving that while at the resistance point.
And, if you're gentle but insistent, you can overcome the resistance. Don't go brute force, just insistent. _________________ -Jussi
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blende8
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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blende8 wrote:
Check here:
http://www.techtheman.com/2007/12/warning-on-bower-m42-adapter.html
It is possible that the clip and/or the screw is off and somewhere in the bajonet. You have to try to locate it and remove it, perhaps with a forceps. Turn and shake in all possible positions, up side down. _________________ Best wishes, Wieland
K-1, K-5IIs
Pentax, mysterium quod absconditum fuit ... |
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nmrecording
Joined: 08 May 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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nmrecording wrote:
thanks but ive been to every m42 adapter site known to man and like i said these solutions arent working for me.. that site doesnt even offer any solutions, its someone explaining that they can be altered to prevent this (which doesnt help when its stuck ont he k mount)
I am well versed in how this adapter works, as ive been using it a while ... this isnt a matter of ignorance there is something preventing it from removing.
Ive tried all these things and u are only reitterating what ive tried from my message. |
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blende8
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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blende8 wrote:
So, is the clip still fixed and present? Can you see it?
I am wondering what you mean by "75-90 degrees". Normally it is only needed to rotate it by about 45 degrees to get it off.
Can you please take a photo of it, with the two extreme positions you can turn it? _________________ Best wishes, Wieland
K-1, K-5IIs
Pentax, mysterium quod absconditum fuit ... |
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nmrecording
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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nmrecording wrote:
yeah the clip is still present and still moves, but seems to no longer affect anything.
regardless of the position of the clip, the adapter moves and yes i agree it is moving more than it should. I will post some pics tonight of what im talking about. i appreciate u attempting to assist
I hope when i get pics uploaded (wont be until tonight) you will have a better understanding of my situation |
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nmrecording
Joined: 08 May 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:22 am Post subject: |
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nmrecording wrote:
ok, forgot i cant take a pic of the kmount if its stuck on my camera.
Ok i give up ive tried another freaking 5 hours with this and no luck.
does anyone know what a camera shop and or pentax would charge to handle this for me? |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:49 am Post subject: Re: M42 k mount bower adapter Stuck |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
nmrecording wrote: |
its been stuck on a week and also every time i mess with it its spitting metal shavings inside my camera. looking in the viewfinder it looks like someone dumped coffee grounds inside (terrible) alas none of it is coming up on the images so it must not be directly on the sensor. Ive tried mirror lock up and blowing to remove the flakes but they arent coming (very scary) |
If you have metal shavings inside, I would definitely send it off for a full service (not just a sensor cleaning)... with a note explaining what happened and that there are metal shavings inside.
Mirror lockup + blowing is a great way to push the shavings into places you can't see... and unlike dust, the metal shavings will be conductive - one of the last things you want inside a digital camera. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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Jieffe
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 754 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:01 am Post subject: Re: M42 k mount bower adapter Stuck |
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Jieffe wrote:
nmrecording wrote: |
its been stuck on a week and also every time i mess with it its spitting metal shavings inside my camera. looking in the viewfinder it looks like someone dumped coffee grounds inside (terrible) alas none of it is coming up on the images so it must not be directly on the sensor. Ive tried mirror lock up and blowing to remove the flakes but they arent coming (very scary)
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If you see dirt in your viewfinder, it means the dirt is IN the viewfinder, not on the sensor ... Your K20 has a removable focusing screen.
I'd remove it, verrrry gently clean it with distilled water and a drop of dishwashing liquid, blow the viewfinder assembly and then re-install the focusing screen. You'd better not touch the mirror, the coatng and alignment are very fragile.
Well ... all of this after having removed the offending adapter, of course .. |
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