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Snakeisthestuff
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: Adaptall 1 to Pentax K - no adapter available? |
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Snakeisthestuff wrote:
I have bought recently an old 300mm f5.6 Tamron Adaptall lens and acquired an adaptall 2 adapter because there are no adaptall 1 adapter and i thought of backward compatibility.
But the adapter won`t fit! Anyone got a suggestion where to find an fitting adapter for my Pentax K10D?
As you can see the Adaptall 2 has some sort of screw mount inside whereas the adaptall adapter is only pushed inside and screwed with the loose ring.
Also the Adaptall 1 adapter has a big lever which controls the shutter in the lens, the adaptall 2 adapter has only a small lever which cant do anything for this lens.
Due to the screw mount of the adaptall 2 adapter it won't even fit in the lens mount.
Hope someone can help me
Here are some pics of the ebay adaptall 2 pentax adapter the lens mount and the adaptall 1 konica adapter which came with the lens:
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Hi
Post your photos in the 2nd post as they will not show in the first post...it is an anti spam feature... _________________ Moira, Moderator
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CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
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Snakeisthestuff
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Snakeisthestuff wrote:
Thx man, i thought i was too stupid to link a picture xD.
The Adaptall 2 pentax adapter i bought on ebay:
The lens mount:
The Adaptall 1 konica adapter which came with the lens:
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Snakeisthestuff wrote: |
Thx man, i thought i was too stupid to link a picture xD. |
Welcome to the forums!
New Member Lesson #2: mo isn't a man. Luckily though she has a good sense of humor.
Best of luck finding the right adapter. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Can you post a bigger photo of the lens itself as I think it is an earlier Auto Tamron adaptamatic lens...which is another mount altogether. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
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Snakeisthestuff
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Snakeisthestuff wrote:
Sry for the "man" .
Indeed its an old Auto Tamron 300mm f5.6 no coating probably.
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
No worries,I have been called worse.. and it's the internet how were you to know!!
Yes that is an adaptamatic,Not sure if you get a k mount in that age group.You may have to buy an M42 adaptamatic mount and then buy the m42 to k mount adapter(I have the original one for my K200D..just because I like the original types and it fits nicely in the camera)...not a bad investment as then you can use a whole lot more m42 lenses on your K10D _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Snakeisthestuff
Joined: 14 Sep 2010 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Snakeisthestuff wrote:
M42 adapter is no problem, I also bought an genuine in Japan for my 50mm Takumar. Unfortunetly ebay doesnt list any adapt-a-matic adapters for pentax only nikon F mount
Maybe buying an Konica to pentax adapter is on option, as i have already an adapt-a-matic Konica adapter? |
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Univer
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 282
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Univer wrote:
Hi,
I don't think Konica-to-Pentax is a viable option, because of the difference in registration distance. (Actually, if memory serves, Konica is difficult to adapt to anything, because its registration distance is so short.)
My recommendation would be to pick up another Adaptamatic lens, this time one that's already fitted with an M42 adapter. Then you can swap the adapter between lenses as needed. Adaptamatic adapters, sold separately, are infrequently encountered. I think I have five or six Adaptamatic lenses, and only two or three adapters for them. In practice, that hasn't proven to be much of an inconvenience.
And since many of the Adaptamatic-era Tamrons are very nice lenses, it's really not such a bad thing to have to buy another one.
Cheers,
Jon
PS I don't believe a K-mount Adaptamatic adapter exists. The Adaptamatic system had come and gone by the time Pentax abandoned the M42 mount. |
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Snakeisthestuff
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Snakeisthestuff wrote:
Yeah I think you are right. But how to check if the lens is adapt-a-matic and not adaptall? I checked ebay and there are very few adapt-a-matic lenses.
But there are many Tamron m42 lenses, but it`s hard to recognize the adapter. Are there any m42 adaptall lenses at all? |
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Univer
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Univer wrote:
Hi,
If you're searching eBay, then you need to be aware (as you've already discovered) that very few lenses are listed as "Adaptamatics." A seller would have to have independent knowledge that a lens belongs to that series; it's not like the term "Adaptamatic" appears on the lenses themselves.
That doesn't mean that the lenses aren't there. I suggest that you head over to this site, click on the Adaptamatic link, and familiarize yourself with the lenses. There aren't that many of them, and they do have rather distinctive styling. Then search for Tamrons (maybe restricting the search to used lenses, just to make things easier), and identify the Adaptamatics among them.
The lenses are there to be had, and often at fair prices, if one is patient and watchful.
Good luck!
Jon |
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Snakeisthestuff
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Snakeisthestuff wrote:
Thanks very much to all of you. I will do my best |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7792 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
SRB Griturn in the UK sell a big range of adaptors, and can make specials. They might be able to help.
http://www.srb-griturn.com/camera-adaptors-306-c.asp
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visualopsins
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I have Adaptall-1 for Canon FTb, Olympus OM-1, Konica EE f/3.5, and Konica EE f/4.5. New old stock, with boxes & plastic cases. Would any of those be of use? Probably not, but maybe somebody else reading this thread will need one. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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mo
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:03 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Maybe search using Auto Tamron...not sure if the later series use that name..I have the 135/2.8 and I like it. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Scheimpflug
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Univer wrote: |
If you're searching eBay, then you need to be aware (as you've already discovered) that very few lenses are listed as "Adaptamatics." A seller would have to have independent knowledge that a lens belongs to that series; it's not like the term "Adaptamatic" appears on the lenses themselves. |
Good point. I did a search a while back, and I was seeing a lot of lenses listed as "Tamron Adaptall Adaptall-2 Adapt-A-Matic Adaptamatic". _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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Univer
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 282
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Univer wrote:
Hi,
Yes, there are a few search strategies that can help. But I honestly believe there's no substitute for learning to recognize the distinctive Adaptamatic styling - even in an eBay thumbnail image.
For some reason, I also seem to see a non-trivial number of cameras sold with Adaptamatic lenses fitted to them. You have to wonder where the original normal lens went.
Note, too, that the Tamron-F lenses, which can look very much like Adaptamatics at a glance, were fixed-mount lenses - no adapter. Those, at least, are identified on the beauty ring, so (as long as there's a decent listing photo) the risk of misidentification isn't terribly high.
Cheers,
Jon |
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mo
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Hi Jon
Do you have any Tamron-F lenses? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Univer
Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Posts: 282
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Univer wrote:
Hi Mo,
Just one: a 200/3.5 in M42 mount.
I'm embarrassed to admit that I haven't yet done any shooting with that one.
Cheers,
Jon |
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mo
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I was wondering could you post an image of it as I have read on the Adaptall site about the coming soon page for "F mount" but it has never been finished and put up.
I would like to know what it looks like, it seems to be a little known or not easily found model of a Tamron...would that be true? _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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