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martyn_bannister
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
That's it then. The TAMRON TWIN-TELE wins at 68mm in length - front of lens to front of adapter. Unless someone can find something shorter?
What is the maximum diameter of the Fujita? |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
And the winner is...the Fujita!
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
The Tele-Astranar 135mm was pretty small (sold, so I don't know the dimensions) but that was a T-mount:
http://forum.mflenses.com/tele-astranar-135mm-f3-5-t15013,highlight,astranar.html _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Damn, fujita is on my watchlist
Tamron Twin-Tele 135mm f4.5 vs Spiratone 135mm f1.8 size comparison
_________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
And the winner is...the Fujita! |
I think mine Tarmon is a bit shorter than yours. I don't have that border on the top of the lens But still, without the border the fujita is a bit smaller _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Damn, fujita is on my watchlist
Tamron Twin-Tele 135mm f4.5 vs Spiratone 135mm f1.8 size comparison
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
Thats small but its also very slow...Perhaps a better question would be:
"What is the smallest 135mm f2.8 lens?", as surely most people go for faster f2.8 versions.
My M42 Vivitar 135mm f2.8 is just 86mm long (including the screw) at the infinity setting (extending to 100mm long at its 5ft closest focus distance) and its 61mm in diameter with a 52mm filter thread. Its a pre-select version with two aperture dials about an inch back from the front.
It has a beautiful 15 blade iris, giving a virtually perfectly circular aperture and the best bit is I only had to pay £2 for it!!!
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
And the winner is...the Fujita!
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Looks like the Fujita takes it. Unless, of course, it's an optical illusion. Don't you have to wear vertical stripes to look taller, or is it horizontal stripes to look fatter? Oh, I can't remember now.... |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7795 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Super Paragon 135 f2.8
88mm long at 1.5 Metre (full extension) from camera to front, 65mm dia'.
Maybe not the smallest, but still a compact lens. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I'm sure my Chinon could compete. I'll measure it later when I get home. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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blende8
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:51 am Post subject: Re: raynox |
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blende8 wrote:
crm-114 wrote: |
my tele raynox 135/2.8 is 70mm long, front to mount, excluding screw, |
Anyone a shorter one? _________________ Best wishes, Wieland
K-1, K-5IIs
Pentax, mysterium quod absconditum fuit ... |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
DSG wrote: |
Thats small but its also very slow...Perhaps a better question would be:
"What is the smallest 135mm f2.8 lens?", as surely most people go for faster f2.8 versions. |
It all depends... My Soligor 135/3.5 isn't a fast lens, but I would definitely be tempted to switch to a slower lens if there was one with a noticeable size reduction. A few mm in length and a few grams in weight may seem like small and insignificant differences, but it really adds up when you take 5+ lenses with you at a time. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: raynox |
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DSG wrote:
blende8 wrote: |
crm-114 wrote: |
my tele raynox 135/2.8 is 70mm long, front to mount, excluding screw, |
Anyone a shorter one? |
Thats cheating...you have to include the length of the screw thread as well...But obviously not the length with lenscaps fitted. |
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crm-114
Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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crm-114 wrote:
Only a partial quote
though, with so many variable, (internal focusing, rear element protrusion, etc) the effective projection from the camera body may be the only objective (pun for the EU) possible.
Certainly its the only 'real world' perception:
Here is the Raynox contra the usual reference for 135mm: |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
crm-114 wrote: |
Here is the Raynox contra the usual reference for 135mm: |
That's a good comparison, actually. Because short/wide is one type of "small", and narrow is another. Depending on your needs (camera bag being one of them), there could easily be a preference for one or the other.
Another thing worth considering is how susceptible a lens is to flare. My Soligor 135/3.5 definitely needs a hood, so I just keep one on it. This easily adds another 50% to the length... but hardly anything to the weight. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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blende8
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: |
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blende8 wrote:
I think measuring from the flange, without screw, is ok.
So far:
Fujita 135/4.5 has the smallest diameter
Raynox 135/2.8 has the shortest length. _________________ Best wishes, Wieland
K-1, K-5IIs
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
Bob van Sikorski wrote: |
mine 37A has 85mm lenght (without screw |
My 100mm measurement included the screwmount as well as the rear cap. _________________ http://www.ipernity.com/home/2419272
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Chinon 135mm F2.8 78mm top to toe.
It's not too fat either at 212mm around. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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enzodm
Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 350 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: |
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enzodm wrote:
Well, I supposed my Vivitar 135/3.5 was very small (about 90mm length x 54mm diameter at mount) but reading here it is not . _________________
Canon 60D, Tamron 17-50VC, Canon 55-250IS, Sigma 50-150/2.8 plus:
Wide: Mir 20/3.5, Kenlock 24/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Yashikor 35/2.8, Mir 37/2.8
Fifties: Voigtländer Color Ultron 50/1.8, Pentacon 50/1.8, Zenitar 50/1.9, Leica Summicron 50/2, CZJ Pancolar 50/2, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5 , Rikenon 55/1.4, Petri 55/1.8, Helios 58/2
In the middle: Cyclop 85/1.5, Nikon 100/2.8
135s: Tamron 135/2.5, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, Jupiter 135/3.5, CZJ Triotar 135/4, Tamron Twin Tele 135-225
Tele: Soligor 200/2.8, Pentax Super Takumar 200/4, Hanimex 400/6.3, Makinon 500/8
Various: Schneider-Kreuznach Componar 135/4.5, Tominon 105/4.5, Vest Pocket Kodak meniscus, Wray Supar 2"/4.5
Sony Nex 6 plus:
Industar 69 28/2.8, Fujian 35/1.7, Rokkor 50/1.4, Jupiter 50/2, Cosmicar 50/2.8, Industar-22 50/3.5, Leitz Elmar 90/4, Canon Serenar 100/4
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William
Joined: 26 Nov 2009 Posts: 489 Location: London
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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William wrote:
The early M42 Takumar 3.5/135 is really small. Not sure of the dimensions but I used to slot it into any pocket. Sharp too.
Edit: See it's already been mentioned. |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Chinon 135mm F2.8 78mm top to toe.
It's not too fat either at 212mm around. |
Are you sure about that?...212mm is over 8" in diameter!!! |
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8310
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 123
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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8310 wrote:
This is one of those girth vs diameter situations. |
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blende8
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 260 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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blende8 wrote:
Perhaps we should turn to volume now?
My reference is still the K-mount M135/3.5 which
is 64mm in diameter and 66mm in length, not counting screw/bajonett.
This gives me a volume of 212 cm^3 (V = pi*r^2*l).
Can any M42 lens beat that? _________________ Best wishes, Wieland
K-1, K-5IIs
Pentax, mysterium quod absconditum fuit ...
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8310
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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8310 wrote:
That is an astonishingly flat volume. |
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enzodm
Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 350 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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enzodm wrote:
blende8 wrote: |
Perhaps we should turn to volume now?
My reference is still the K-mount M135/3.5 which
is 64mm in diameter and 66mm in length, not counting screw/bajonett.
This gives me a volume of 212 cm^2 (V = pi*r^2*l).
Can any M42 lens beat that? |
well, put in volume, my Vivitar has about 206cm^3 . EDIT: looking back at the thread, it seems identical to Dollonds.
I think there are not so many threads around the web about who has the smallest one .
_________________
Canon 60D, Tamron 17-50VC, Canon 55-250IS, Sigma 50-150/2.8 plus:
Wide: Mir 20/3.5, Kenlock 24/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Yashikor 35/2.8, Mir 37/2.8
Fifties: Voigtländer Color Ultron 50/1.8, Pentacon 50/1.8, Zenitar 50/1.9, Leica Summicron 50/2, CZJ Pancolar 50/2, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, Industar 50/3.5 , Rikenon 55/1.4, Petri 55/1.8, Helios 58/2
In the middle: Cyclop 85/1.5, Nikon 100/2.8
135s: Tamron 135/2.5, CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5, Jupiter 135/3.5, CZJ Triotar 135/4, Tamron Twin Tele 135-225
Tele: Soligor 200/2.8, Pentax Super Takumar 200/4, Hanimex 400/6.3, Makinon 500/8
Various: Schneider-Kreuznach Componar 135/4.5, Tominon 105/4.5, Vest Pocket Kodak meniscus, Wray Supar 2"/4.5
Sony Nex 6 plus:
Industar 69 28/2.8, Fujian 35/1.7, Rokkor 50/1.4, Jupiter 50/2, Cosmicar 50/2.8, Industar-22 50/3.5, Leitz Elmar 90/4, Canon Serenar 100/4
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