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pat donnelly
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:01 pm Post subject: Is it true that NEX has 7 fps???? |
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pat donnelly wrote:
If so, how come they have managed to achieve this?
It may be that I am misinformed????? _________________ ---------------------------------
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std
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
if you shot raw not true.
it may be true for jpeg. |
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cooltouch
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Sony says 7 fps "with exposure and focus fixed at the first frame," but does not mention whether this is raw or jpg. I'm figuring it's jpg. It also mentions a "standard" frame rate of 2.3 fps.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666192672#features
One reason why the NEX 5 can hit this high frame rate is -- obviously -- because it doesn't use a mirror. The shutter and the shutter button are really the only moving parts during this activity. _________________ Michael
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aleksanderpolo
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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aleksanderpolo wrote:
GH2 has unlimited 40FPS shooting. The FPS war has began
It is possible with jpg only and with reduced quality. |
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Scheimpflug
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
One reason why the NEX 5 can hit this high frame rate is -- obviously -- because it doesn't use a mirror. The shutter and the shutter button are really the only moving parts during this activity. |
Yep, that's it.
But even traditional SLRs with moving mirrors are getting up there. For example, the EOS 7D manages 8fps, the EOS-1D Mark IV can shoot 10fps, and the Nikon D3S can do 9 in FX mode and 11 in DX mode!
aleksanderpolo wrote: |
GH2 has unlimited 40FPS shooting. The FPS war has began ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
It might be heating up for the m4/3 category... but compact cameras have already hit 1200 fps (Casio Exilim EX-F1). ![Shocked](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
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cooltouch
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Well, the 40fps is for video mode. The Nex and a bunch of others now shoot at 1080p, some with speeds over 30 fps. Dunno what the Nex's 1080p max frame rate is. _________________ Michael
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Scheimpflug
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Well, the 40fps is for video mode. |
From a technical perspective, it would be silly to use anything other than a video mode for these high-speed bursts. The video modes are more efficient for the filesystem (fewer and larger files), easier to pipeline for the image processing, and much more efficient for overall storage space due to the motion & change-based compression codecs used. ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
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Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
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pat donnelly
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: Thanks, guys! |
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pat donnelly wrote:
The sooner we get an LCD shutter the better!
7 frames p.s. is good, obviously no refocus, or exposure comp is fair enough.
For the price, this is some performance! When Sony sort out their menu system, I will be very interested as the sensor will complement the m4/3 system, allowing one lens to have two focal lengths.
Glad to see the number of replies as I was getting worried that Sonmy might have produced a lemon. They seem to be talking up the prospects for these cams, but the reality as we all know, often is different. _________________ ---------------------------------
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cooltouch
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Scheimpflug wrote: |
cooltouch wrote: |
Well, the 40fps is for video mode. |
From a technical perspective, it would be silly to use anything other than a video mode for these high-speed bursts. The video modes are more efficient for the filesystem (fewer and larger files), easier to pipeline for the image processing, and much more efficient for overall storage space due to the motion & change-based compression codecs used. ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) |
All undoubtedly true. My comment was intended to indicate more that the file size in megapixels will be quite a bit smaller than that used in still mode. _________________ Michael
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JaccoW
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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JaccoW wrote:
Sorry to bump, but I just did a quick test.
The 7fps is with jpeg, no refocus. Pretty much unlimited if using a fast enough card.
With raw it's the same speed, but the buffer runs full after 5 or so. |
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Scheimpflug
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
JaccoW wrote: |
Sorry to bump, but I just did a quick test.
The 7fps is with jpeg, no refocus. Pretty much unlimited if using a fast enough card.
With raw it's the same speed, but the buffer runs full after 5 or so. |
Thanks, JaccoW, and welcome to the forums. ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
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cooltouch
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:32 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I think I may have mentioned this in another topic, but I had the chance to play around with the NEX 3 the other day, and was rather impressed by it. It had the 18-55 zoom mounted, and I was quite surprised by how well damped both its zoom and focusing rings were. Sure enough, when set to multiple exposure mode, it blazes right along at what I must assume to be 7 fps. I found it to focus rapidly and follow focus quite well, too. Big pluses as far as autofocus goes. But if I were to buy one of these NEXes, it would be so I could use my manual lenses with it, and for that the metering patterns and accuracy become more important. _________________ Michael
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JaccoW
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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JaccoW wrote:
Thanks Scheimpflug.
I've been reading various lens reviews on these forums for a while, so I thought I'd register.
@Cooltouch: Yes the 18-55 is quite nice, but I wanted to try some nice and especially faster manual focus lenses.
A couple of weeks ago I had to resort to manual focus when using the camera in (very) low light conditions because autofocus just wasn't fast enough. I quite liked working like that.
So now I got a pentacon 200mm F4.0 with a CZJ 50mm F1.8 and a Pentacon 30mm F3.5 on the way. ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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