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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: What to do with Rodenstock Omegar Enlarging Lens? |
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cooltouch wrote:
I was browsing through some boxes of stuff I'd stored away years ago, and came across a 50mm f/4.5 Rodenstock Omegar that used to be part of my darkroom outfit. I sold all my darkroom stuff off years ago, but somehow I managed to miss this piece.
Rather than sell it too, I'm wondering if I can put it to any practical use. One thing I can use it for is a loupe, but I don't really need one. I already have a couple and I can always look through a reversed wide-angle lens if I want to observe a subject at high magnification. Being an enlarging lens it has no focusing helical. I suppose if I had a set of bellows, which I currently don't, I could use it as a macro lens, but I've already got a few good macro lenses already.
So I thought I'd ask you folks, see if y'all might have any clever ideas of what to do with an old enlarger lens? _________________ Michael
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7795 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I use a Wilon 105mm f4.5 enlarger lens on an Zenit bellows that came real cheap, and they work very well on my Pentax K10. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Well, its good for handheld macro of course. A bit dim though.
No need for bellows - use extension rings, and focus the camera by moving back and forth. I do that with bellows anyway, when handheld.
Its lighter and handier than bellows besides, and nearly all macro lenses. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Screamin Scott
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1014 Location: Dallas, Georgia USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Screamin Scott wrote:
Probably get better results if you reverse it. I don't believe it's an asymmetrical lens which is why I suggest reversing it. The Rodenstock Rodagon (which I have) is asymmetrical, and you gain nothing by reversing it . _________________ Cameras-Nikon D300, D7100,D610,FE2,FTN ,FT2,N90s, Olympus Pen EP-3 & Olympus OM-D E-M10
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:42 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
The magnification is somewhat greater when reversed, but the field of view is noticeably narrower as I look through it. More like looking through a tube reversed than the right way.
Let's see -- most enlarging lenses use the same thread as the old leica screw mount, correct? That might be the easiest way to go. Get some LSM extension rings, then an adapter for LSM -> EOS for my DSLR.
Wonder if it'll be worth all the trouble, though. As I recall, when I sold my other Rodenstock enlarging lens on eBay, I got about $10 for it. _________________ Michael
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:32 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
If the thread is M39, then all you would need, assuming you already have extension rings for your camera and an M42 adapter, is an M39-M42 adapter ring, which usually go for $10 or so.
Granted, there is small benefit in this lens probably. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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martyn_bannister
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:02 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
If the thread is M39, then all you would need, assuming you already have extension rings for your camera and an M42 adapter, is an M39-M42 adapter ring, which usually go for $10 or so. ..... |
I was pointed at these in another thread. I have ordered a couple for an Industar 50 and anything else which I get at M39. Hmmmmm..... I have an Accura enlarging lens somewhere - now you've got me thinking
I've not had any problems with ordered from China or Hong Kong, so I'm hoping for the best. Good price I thought.
http://cgi.ebay.com/42mm-39mm-M42-M39-Lens-mount-adapter-Leica-Zenit-/320472832486?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4a9dab59e6 |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
If you have to buy something to make it work, keep in mind that the M39 to Nikon/Canon/Pentax/etc adapters are about the same price as the M39-M42 adapters. One less piece to worry about. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
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Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16661 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote: |
Probably get better results if you reverse it. I don't believe it's an asymmetrical lens which is why I suggest reversing it. The Rodenstock Rodagon (which I have) is asymmetrical, and you gain nothing by reversing it . |
The Omegar is a Tessar (unsymmetric) and should be reversed for macro whereas the Rodagon is a (symmetric) double Gauss design and does not benefit from reversing.
http://www.prograf.ru/rodenstock/enlarging_en.html
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Krisgage
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 681 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Krisgage wrote:
I had a 2 enlarger lens and I used for macro purpose. _________________ Photos and Lenses Journal
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Just FYI -
Its not safe to assume that an enlarger lens is M39
I have 7-8 enlarger lenses, and of these just one is M39
American-made ones (Wollensak, DO, Elgeet, Ilex, Bausch&Lomb) rarely are. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
Just FYI -
Its not safe to assume that an enlarger lens is M39 |
What mount are the others? _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
My collection has all sorts of threads, the American ones are non-metric (i.e., one is @ 41.5mm or close, another is more like 52mm, etc., most mounts seem to have used view-camera type lensboards with mounting rings, but even my Schneider Componar seems to be about 25mm.
Best to measure to be sure. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Attila wrote:
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7795 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Wow......that's very good indeed. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
yes, shockingly, G1 is not the best camera at all. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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sceptic
Joined: 01 Jun 2013 Posts: 255
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:11 am Post subject: |
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sceptic wrote:
If you want to use your enlarger lens as a normal lens on your camera and be able to focus without moving your camera back and forth, I'd suggest something like this:
https://www.fotodioxpro.com/lens-mount-adapters/fotodiox-pro-lens-mount-adapter-m42-42x1mm-screw-mount-lens-to-canon-ef-m-eos-m-mirrorless-digital-camera-system-with-macro-focusing-helicoid.html
Just put an M39-M42 adapter ring on the lens threads and you're good to go.
You will probably not be able to focus on infinity, as the flange distance of the enlarger is different (shorter) than that of regular M42 lenses _________________ Sony A7R and wildly varying flora of lenses |
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