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beurling
Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: Film questions and Hi :-) |
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beurling wrote:
Firstly wanted to say Hi as this is my first post...
I have a cannon EOS 500 35mm SLR and have just purchased my first DSLR a Canon EOS 500D ( can you see a pattern..lol ), however my most prised possession is my Canon AE-1 Program...which incidentally has survived a fall down a 1500ft mountain in the mid 80's with no detrimental effects...the camera isnt mint but it has been hammered over the years..it was my Grandads and joined us and went with him almost every weekend to the Lake District over 25 years....in the last 7 or 8 years he had Cancer and took to using a pocket sized digital camera as it was easier for him..
However I inherited the Camera early and have used it ever since..and love using it...Unfortunately it is in dire need of a service at the mo so I am not sure how long it will be out of working order as i need to start collecting lenses now both for my dslr and the fd mount for this...
anyway i digress...I have a fair few old films that i have dug out that say process by 1998 or process by 2001...are these films now fubar and not worth using??? only one is sealed the 3 others are in the usual plastic containers...
Also if a film has been in a camera for a long long time is it even worth me bothering to get it developed??
Also where would you guys reccomend buying films ( i'm a cheapskate in that i can't afford hugely expensive but i always tried to buy better quality ) and where's best to have them processed?? I am based in ENgland by the way
I often wondered whether anybody ever developed a unit that could develop films via a plugin to the pc...just a thought anyway...i know its far more complicated than that...
ANyway i hope you can help me and i look forward to asking many many more questions....i will be asking a few more later about lenses so look out for me
All the best
Buzz |
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
For photo processing go here.....
http://www.oldschoolphotolab.com/Lab_Home.html
I buy my film from B&H Photo video.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
Or Adorama
http://www.adorama.com/
They are not the cheapest but they are dependable. _________________ Big Dawg |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3460 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
The cheapest Kodak film in the UK afaik is Color Plus 200 24 exp for £1 per roll in Poundland.
I use Photo Express in Hull for my processing - develop and scan for £5 incl carriage. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Just started a sticky here for film development in the UK:-
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=341566 _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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bazza59
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 132 Location: County Down, Ireland
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: |
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bazza59 wrote:
Hi and welcome.
There don't seem to be any super cheap supermarket style development options available to me in Northern Ireland so like Edgar I also use photo-express. I get them to develop the film and transfer it it to CD (no prints). This costs £4.50 per film. They are very fast, my experiences to date have been post films thursday, get a phone call Friday for payment card details, receive negs and CD Saturday via Royal Mail. I have run 5 films through them so far and am very happy with them. _________________
SLR: Olympus E-520, OM-1, OM-10, OM-40, Canon AV-1, Canon T-70, EOS Rebel X, EOS 300V, Fujica ST801
Lenses
Zuiko: 50/1.8,
Tamron: 28/2.5 (02B), 35-70/3.5 (17A), 135/2.8 (JSG-28Au), 80-210/3.8-4 (103A), 70-210/4-5.6 (58A)
Fujinon: EBC 55/1.8
Others: Helios 44-2, Dollonds-S 135/3.5, Soligor 135/2.8, Sands Hunter 135/3.5, PrinzGalaxy 200/4.5, Danubia 135/2.8, Vivitar 300/5.6
Range/view finders: Olympus - ERC, XA, XA-3, MJU-1, MJU Zoom140 |
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beurling
Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 29
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:00 am Post subject: |
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beurling wrote:
thanks guys..that's very helpful
Buzz |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Film questions and Hi :-) |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
beurling wrote: |
Firstly wanted to say Hi as this is my first post... |
Welcome!
beurling wrote: |
anyway i digress...I have a fair few old films that i have dug out that say process by 1998 or process by 2001...are these films now fubar and not worth using??? only one is sealed the 3 others are in the usual plastic containers... |
Absolutely worth using. The color balance will be a bit off, perhaps, but you will still get images. If you look on eBay, people actually pay MORE sometimes for expired film because they like the look of the results!
beurling wrote: |
Also if a film has been in a camera for a long long time is it even worth me bothering to get it developed?? |
Yes! "Found film" is a like a time capsule... a glimpse into the past. If the camera has been in your family, this is especially true. There are examples of photos on the internet that were developed 60+ years after being exposed, and they came out fine!
beurling wrote: |
Also where would you guys reccomend buying films ( i'm a cheapskate in that i can't afford hugely expensive but i always tried to buy better quality ) and where's best to have them processed?? I am based in ENgland by the way |
Have you considered shooting black-and-white film, and developing it yourself? Also, will you be getting or making prints, or scanning them into your computer? _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Hi Buzz
Great to hear you're using film! We need to keep it going.
I've used Peak Imaging in Sheffield for the past few years - very good service indeed. Recently I was recommended to use The Darkroom where my next film is going - they look dearer but free postage works out cheaper. If you need a local lab there's DS Colourlabs in Manchester but I've never tried them. I'm sure Phot Express are good too.
For cheaper 135 film you can still get a limited selection in most supermarkets and my local Boots has quite a nice choice. Otherwise you'll always find good film bargains on eBay. For top quality pro film and 120 film I'd suggest buying on line from Speed Graphic or Silverprint.
Good luck! _________________ Peter - Moderator
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Blinx123
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 75
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Blinx123 wrote:
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I often wondered whether anybody ever developed a unit that could develop films via a plugin to the pc...just a thought anyway...i know its far more complicated than that...
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Polaroid actually did just that (well. Without the PC).
It sucked though. While development was quick, it turned out to be a pain more often than not. Most of the time, it was due to a dried out kit (the film itself came with some sort of instant development substance one would put into the developer before inserting the film).
Let's not even talk about image quality, though. The scans I've seen looked worse than those from a cheap throwaway or LOMO cam. Scratches and dust all over the place (both is probably added through the rough mechanics of this particular Polaroid device). |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Welcome, Buzz!
'Fraid I can't offer much advice about film purchasing and developing, since I live on the other side of the pond. But it's always good to read that there's yet another avid film user out there.
Regarding your FD gear, my advice is to start collecting the lenses you want now. Don't wait. Because of the NEX, NX, and u4/3 crowds, who are buying adapters to use FD lenses on their cameras, the demand for the old stuff is increasing and prices are going up. So don't wait too long.
I'm an old fan of FD and FL gear and I have a decent sized outfit, but it still has a few small holes that need to be filled.
One of the nice things you're gonna find out from hanging out around here is that a lot of different camera mount lenses are compatible with EOS with the appropriate adapters. Nikon, Olympus, Pentax K, M42, Contax, and more. For me, Nikon and M42 are the most popular -- Nikon because I also have a Nikon outfit and M42 because good ones can often be picked up for cheap. _________________ Michael
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beurling
Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 29
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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beurling wrote:
thanks michael..i really appreciate that....yes i have no intention of waiting but money counts and dont have a lot spare..and needing lenses for 2 cameras isnt a cheap proposition..but i'll keep looking cos bargains can be had..my e0s d camera is proof of that to me!
used a test film in my ae1p today to check what condition it is all in picture wise..that will help me decide if i can use it the while or i have to refurb now...fingers crossed she comes out of it well
Buzz |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:14 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Welcome!
For cheap colour films: the Colorplus as already mentioned and Ferrania (Solaris).
For expired films, the general advice is to underate the speed so the camera overexposes. Although, for £1 a roll, it seems hardly worth it. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Blinx123
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 75
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Blinx123 wrote:
Quick question I thought I better post here, rather than opening up a new thread.
I just received my new camera. After opening the back, I had to realize that there was already a film (some sort of Fuji) placed inside.
The film itself is black and rather thick. Not like anything I've ever seen before.
Is that what an already exposed film looks like after having been exposed to further sunlight? |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
If you're asking if total exposure to light adds to the thickness of film, the answer is "no." _________________ Michael
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Blinx123
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 75
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Blinx123 wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
If you're asking if total exposure to light adds to the thickness of film, the answer is "no." |
Yea. That was indeed an essential part of my question.
Figured out the rest myself. Apparently, that's what unexposed slide film looks like.
Kinda cool. Means I've got an Ektachrome Elite II (expired 1990) and a Fuji slide film with my camera. |
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Blinx123
Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Posts: 75
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Blinx123 wrote:
The seller just returned a mail.
Apparently the film was partly used afterall. It's a Fuji Sensia 100 and he took about 10 shots with it.
Can someone explain to me (a film noob) what exactly I have done to that film by exposing it to light? Obviously, the shots the original owner took are gone for good. What about the rest of the slide film though? Still usable?
Would hate to have ruined a good film. Especially a Fuji Sensia which is, after comparing several photos taken by other wildlife photographers, quite capable. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:48 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Any film that still remained in the cartridge when you opened up the back is still good. If all you did was just open the back, then figure about two frames beyond where he stopped have also been exposed. So advance the film a couple of frames, and you can continue from there. Fuji Sensia 100 is good slide film. Might as well finish up the roll. _________________ Michael
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tikkathree
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 755 Location: Lovely Suffolk in Great Britain
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:42 am Post subject: |
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tikkathree wrote:
Well, I'm new to film too and in Suffolk/Norfolk. For 35mm something to see if that new camera actually works I find Kodak supercolour 200 compelling at £1/roll in poundland.
Otherwise it's been 7dayshop, tog forum sales and ebay for film stock purchases.
I've been getting my 35mm neg developed at my local independent camera shop, mostly just the negs (I bought a plustek 35mm scanner) @ £2 per roll, occasionally also onto cd (bumps the cost up to £5.60 per roll).
Now I've got an MF camera so let's see what I can do about that. _________________ I used to think digital was fun but then I discovered film, then I found old lenses and then, eventually I found rangefinders.
EOS 5DII, loadsalenses
Canon G9 IR conv,
MF: TLR, 645 and folders
35mm: Oly OM Pro bodies 1, 2, 3 and 4; Soviet RF kit |
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