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Auto Miranda EC 50mm f1.4
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Auto Miranda EC 50mm f1.4 Reply with quote

I have recently acquired my fastest lens yet, an Auto Miranda EC 50/1.4. Surprised

I haven't found much information about this lens on the net, but it looks to be made for the last generation of Miranda SLRs - the EE-2, RE-II, and dx-3 in particular. It has the Miranda bayonet mount.





The lens is in excellent condition, with no blemishes of any kind on the glass or inside the lens, however the rubber focus grip is missing. The lens features an interesting built-in retractable hood, which I've seen on telephoto lenses, but never on a lens with this short of a focal length. I only had the point-and-shoot handy for the pictures, it really looks much better in person than in the photos. Wink

This lens has a large and slightly protruding rear element, so this is one of those lenses you would never sit on its mount end without a cap on it. Wink


Here are the few references I found:
http://www.mirandacamera.com/_lenses/_EE_EC/lenses_EC.htm
http://www.mirandacamera.com/_lenses/_lens50mm/lens50mm.htm

If anyone has used this lens, or has any advertisements, test data, etc, I would love to hear about it! Cool


PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, if nobody here has used one, then this must be a rare/uncommon lens. Wink Perhaps it is the Miranda mount, and the difficulties adapting them?

I'm on the fence about converting this one...


PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has a really different design.

It has 8 element, but in simetrical schame.

4 elements in three groups at the front and at the rear too.

Should be very well corrected.

When you take the pics, please, share them.

It will be very interesant to see.

Ragards, Rino.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:
It has a really different design.

It has 8 element, but in simetrical schame.

4 elements in three groups at the front and at the rear too.

Should be very well corrected.

When you take the pics, please, share them.

It will be very interesant to see.

Ragards, Rino.


You are probably talking about early version of Miranda 50mm/f1.4 lens. I have both and they are definitely different in their dimensions - the early version is much longer, the newer seems to be of the same dimensions as other similar lenses. Unfortunately they are indeed very difficult to convert, so meanwhile no optical comparison.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dimitrygo wrote:
estudleon wrote:
It has a really different design.

It has 8 element, but in simetrical schame.

4 elements in three groups at the front and at the rear too.

Should be very well corrected.

When you take the pics, please, share them.

It will be very interesant to see.

Ragards, Rino.


You are probably talking about early version of Miranda 50mm/f1.4 lens. I have both and they are definitely different in their dimensions - the early version is much longer, the newer seems to be of the same dimensions as other similar lenses. Unfortunately they are indeed very difficult to convert, so meanwhile no optical comparison.


Yes, you are right. I revised my notes and my information is refered to the early version. For the F, G and sensorex series.

Rino.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:
I revised my notes and my information is refered to the early version. For the F, G and sensorex series.

Rino.


Do you have a link or picture of the optical scheme?


PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dimitrygo wrote:
estudleon wrote:
I revised my notes and my information is refered to the early version. For the F, G and sensorex series.

Rino.


Do you have a link or picture of the optical scheme?


I have the scheme in an old book of lenses of the 50's, 60's and middle of the 70's.

Sorry, I don't have a scanner.

Rino


PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I own two copies, both are stellar performers.
You'll enjoy it for sure.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lens scheme and more info here:

http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Miranda_SLR.html


PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

urmelchen wrote:
lens scheme and more info here:

http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Miranda_SLR.html


The lens scheme is the 8 elements taht i Have explained before. It was the older version (pre EC ones).

Thanks for the link, very nice.

Rino


PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SVP wrote:
I own two copies, both are stellar performers.
You'll enjoy it for sure.


Thanks for sharing your experience with borh lenses.

Are them prone to flare? What about reflections?

I ask you because the lenses are single coat.

Rino


PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:
SVP wrote:
I own two copies, both are stellar performers.
You'll enjoy it for sure.


Thanks for sharing your experience with borh lenses.

Are them prone to flare? What about reflections?

I ask you because the lenses are single coat.

Rino


In normal conditions I haven't experienced any flare or reflection so far. Plus, I find the coulour-rendering capability outstanding.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The back element looks like the distinctive flat ones found in Tomioka 1.4 lenses.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SVP wrote:
estudleon wrote:
SVP wrote:
I own two copies, both are stellar performers.
You'll enjoy it for sure.


Thanks for sharing your experience with borh lenses.

Are them prone to flare? What about reflections?

I ask you because the lenses are single coat.

Rino


In normal conditions I haven't experienced any flare or reflection so far. Plus, I find the coulour-rendering capability outstanding.


Thanks, SVP.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "EC" lenses were Miranda's last lens series following the "E" series.
Both the E and EC lenses were intended to support the automatic features
of Miranda's last cameras such as the Sensorex EE.

The "EC" stands for "E Compact" as they were made smaller to go with
Mirand's last camera the compact DX-3.

I don't know how the lens formulas compare between the E and EC lenses
but they are mechanically compatible.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

urmelchen wrote:
lens scheme and more info here:

http://www.taunusreiter.de/Cameras/Miranda_SLR.html


Thank you, very interesting article.