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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: Disappearance of ISO 800+ film? |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
A few weeks ago, I set out to buy some ISO 800 or 1600 film, only to find that none is available locally. I've been to every camera store, most of the mini-labs, many of the chemists & corner convenience stores, the electronics stores, the "big box" stores, etc... and nobody carries anything other than 100, 200, and 400 speed film.
The camera stores and mini-labs have all said that they can order some 800 speed film, but it will come from half way across the country, and at a cost of NZ $20+ per roll (~ US $15.37 or €11.51), more than 3x the cost of ISO 100/200/400 film. The ISO 1600 film would be even more! From the responses I have received asking about these films, I get the impression that I'm the first person in years to ask for them.
Is the retreat of high-ISO film happening in other parts of the world, or is it just New Zealand? Can you still buy ISO 800/1600/3200 film locally in your area? _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
I rarely buy film locally but B&H Photo and Freestyle still stock many high speed films.
220 is sadly getting rare and B&W 220 is extinct now.
Hope we can keep medium format alive! I haven't shot 35mm film in five years. |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Kram wrote: |
I rarely buy film locally but B&H Photo and Freestyle still stock many high speed films. |
Yes, this was one of my first thoughts too, as I've been very happy ordering from both suppliers in the past. The problem is that the shipping is *really* expensive to get packages to NZ, so you have to make huge orders to make it worthwhile.
For example, one roll of Fuji 800Z from B&H will cost just US $5.60, but the cheapest shipping option (International Priority Mail, 10-14 Days Delivery, No Tracking) is US $46.25! That's for just one roll!! The shipping price stays the same up to 14 rolls, but goes up slowly after that.
Freestyle has better prices in general, but they have a US $25 minimum order, and shipping for $25 worth of film to NZ will run US $36.96 for USPS Priority Mail International. So even with Freestyle, I would have to spend US $61.96 at a minimum! _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Just push HP5 or get some 1600 Neopan which is really about 800iso or Delta 3200 which is about 1000. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:32 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Did you manage to score that 800 on #bay? I will be going to the bigger town soon and will check out the camera shops.
Try this link...I think peterqd put me onto this site when i was looking for film..
http://www.visionimagelab.com.au/main/page_shop_online_fuji_colour_negative_c41.html _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
mo wrote: |
Did you manage to score that 800 on #bay? I will be going to the bigger town soon and will check out the camera shops. |
No, unfortunately I missed it.
Do let me know what you find in your shops... not that I would have you buy me any (unless it is really cheap! ), but I'm really interested to know now if 800, 1600, & 3200 film is disappearing in other places.
It looks like the only 800-speed film they have is the Kodak Portra 800, at AU $14.50/roll... So it's only a touch cheaper than the mail-order Fuji here in NZ, not counting the shipping. Thanks though! _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Just push HP5 or get some 1600 Neopan which is really about 800iso or Delta 3200 which is about 1000. |
The 1600 Neopan and Delta 3200 would also be ultra-expensive mail order for me. There really is nothing over ISO 400 available locally...
I would push it, and I might push some B&W in the future, but for right now I'm looking for color film to be developed at the local labs. I don't think any of them are set up to do push/pull processing - it is hard enough to even find a place that still does the developing at all.
Something else interesting that I should add, is that I have found quite a few stores that indirectly stock ISO 800 film... they have the "indoor" disposable cameras that come loaded with 27-exposure ISO 800 film. I could in effect get a roll of 24-exp ISO 800 film by buying one of these, winding it all the way through the roll, breaking the camera open, and retrieving the leader from the cartridge... But I would have to spend NZ $25 per camera, so $25 per roll. That's over $1 per exposure, which is pretty steep when you think about it. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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Sevo
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 1189 Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Fast films are getting scarce - Fuji already cancelled Neopan 1600 and Pro 800Z. It would be quite a surprise if Superia 1600 and Portra 800 don't soon go the way of the dodo as well - professional use of fast colour film will be pretty much zero now, DSLRs beat it in just about every discipline. Black and white has more justification, and Fuji already killed theirs, which leaves a bit more market for the two remaining ones.
For out of the way places with expensive shipping like NZ, perspectives for film photographers in general are somewhat grim - exotic materials already have to be mail ordered from the few economies big enough to have some local market for these freak products. At the very best, you'll find some camera store shipping from Australia, otherwise it is getting seriously expensive.
That is, as long as subsidized shipping rates from Hongkong and China are as cheap as right now, I'd probably shop there rather than in Australia - currently it is often cheaper to order from Hongkong to Germany rather than from adjacent Austria. But it rather looks s if the WTO will put their foot down on this sooner or later, so that that loophole won't exist in the long run... _________________ Sevo |
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