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Banjo
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 Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:56 am Post subject: OM Olympus Mount Tokina 3.5/17 superwide rectilinear. |
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Banjo wrote:
I recently acquired this lens and, though I have been using it on my Olympus OM 2SP, I have as yet to finish off the 36 exposure film.
Tried to find something about it on the web, but without success. 
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of it (or a link I could use), please  ? |
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Scheimpflug
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| Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: Re: OM Olympus Mount Tokina 3.5/17 superwide rectilinear. |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
| Banjo wrote: |
| Tried to find something about it on the web, but without success. |
I did a Google search for "Tokina 17mm 3.5" and got a whole bunch of results... is this what yours looks like?
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Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
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Banjo
Joined: 25 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: Re: OM Olympus Mount Tokina 3.5/17 superwide rectilinear. |
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Banjo wrote:
| Scheimpflug wrote: |
| Banjo wrote: |
| Tried to find something about it on the web, but without success. |
I did a Google search for "Tokina 17mm 3.5" and got a whole bunch of results... is this what yours looks like?
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OK, thanks.
Yes it does, except in OM mount.
OK, I'll give it another try.  |
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Scheimpflug
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: Re: OM Olympus Mount Tokina 3.5/17 superwide rectilinear. |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
| Banjo wrote: |
OK, thanks.
Yes it does, except in OM mount.
OK, I'll give it another try. |
No worries.
One trick I have learned is to put the lens name into Google, but then switch it over to the image search. Then it becomes very easy to filter through the search results, as it is clear which results are for the right lens and which are for the wrong lens (newer versions, etc).
Do post back here what you find though, if you can. The chances are pretty good that someone else looking for the same info will end up back here! 
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Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I've just purchased one of these in OM mount as well. I'm presuming it's similar to the Soligor 17/3.5 I have, which I believe is also made by Tokina.
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PBFACTS
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:06 am Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| I've just purchased one of these in OM mount as well. I'm presuming it's similar to the Soligor 17/3.5 I have, which I believe is also made by Tokina. |
Soligor 17 = Vivitar 17 = Asanuma 17 = hoya 17 = Tokina 17
Tokina was in the 1970/1980 the SINGLE 17mm manufacturer (the only competitor was the Sigma 18mm)
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OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
| PBFACTS wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| I've just purchased one of these in OM mount as well. I'm presuming it's similar to the Soligor 17/3.5 I have, which I believe is also made by Tokina. |
Soligor 17 = Vivitar 17 = Asanuma 17 = hoya 17 = Tokina 17
Tokina was in the 1970/1980 the SINGLE 17mm manufacturer (the only competitor was the Sigma 18mm) |
The Tamron SP 17mm was sold from 79-80s too [/pendant]
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PBFACTS
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| Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| PBFACTS wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| I've just purchased one of these in OM mount as well. I'm presuming it's similar to the Soligor 17/3.5 I have, which I believe is also made by Tokina. |
Soligor 17 = Vivitar 17 = Asanuma 17 = hoya 17 = Tokina 17
Tokina was in the 1970/1980 the SINGLE 17mm manufacturer (the only competitor was the Sigma 18mm) |
The Tamron SP 17mm was sold from 79-80s too [/pendant] |
You are right : I forgot the tamron SP 17mm for the 1980 period (before , the tokina 17 and Sigma 18 were the only solutions)
For info : the Tokina was the better of both (Tamron was vg and Tokina excellent
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OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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EdSawyer
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: It's ok |
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EdSawyer wrote:
For the price these are usually pretty good lenses, I had one for a while. I think the Tamron 17 is likely better, as is the Oly 18.
-Ed |
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JerryMK
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: FD mount version |
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JerryMK wrote:
I just received this Tokina 17mm f3.5 lens today in FD mount version. No shots yet, will try it this weekend. Feels very sturdy and I am cusious of the image results... |
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DSG
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
| PBFACTS wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| PBFACTS wrote: |
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| I've just purchased one of these in OM mount as well. I'm presuming it's similar to the Soligor 17/3.5 I have, which I believe is also made by Tokina. |
Soligor 17 = Vivitar 17 = Asanuma 17 = hoya 17 = Tokina 17
Tokina was in the 1970/1980 the SINGLE 17mm manufacturer (the only competitor was the Sigma 18mm) |
The Tamron SP 17mm was sold from 79-80s too [/pendant] |
You are right : I forgot the tamron SP 17mm for the 1980 period (before , the tokina 17 and Sigma 18 were the only solutions)
For info : the Tokina was the better of both (Tamron was vg and Tokina excellent |
Thats not quite right. I have both, so I know the strengths and weaknesses of both.
The Tamron is far, far, better wide open than the Tokina. The Tokina borders on being virtually unusable wide open due to horrid CA and softness. The Tamron, on the other hand, is razor sharp wide open with no noticable CA.
Stopped down the Tokina gets much better but I still think the Tamron is sharper.
The biggest difference can be noticed in nightshots...The Tokina produces attractive, distinctive, 6 pointed stars around bright lights at night but the Tamron produces horrible looking, fuzzy, 10 pointed stars...This makes the Tokina much better for night work than the Tamron.
You also get a 67mm filter thread with the Tokina where the Tamron does'nt have one, unless, like me, you fit one to it. |
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PBFACTS
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
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Thats not quite right. I have both, so I know the strengths and weaknesses of both. |
My infos came from a comparative test of both Tokina sl17/3.5 and Tamron sp 3.5 and the tokina was on the mtf test FAR better
3 solutions :
Your Tokina lens is not the ~1982-1983 sl/3.5 version
Your Tokina lens is under the average Toki 17 quality
The Tokina lens tested was over the average Toki 17 quality (or the tamron was under the average 17sp quality)
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OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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Ashley Pomeroy
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Ashley Pomeroy wrote:
Photozone.de has a review of this lens, on a crop-sensor Pentax K10:
http://www.photozone.de/pentax/142-tokina-rmc-17mm-f35-review--lab-test-report
I was searching for "RMC Tokina 17mm". The only other RMC Tokina lens I had - I believe RMC is a reference to the multicoating - was a decent 28mm f/2.8.
The results seem decent enough although it would be far more interesting to see how it performs in the corners on a full-frame camera. I was drawn to this thread because I actually won one of these in an eBay auction - for £80! - but the Royal Mail were unable to deliver it. It was in OM-mount. If not for the Royal Mail I would now chip in with some f/8 corner crops taken on a 5D. |
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Boomer Depp
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Boomer Depp wrote:
| PBFACTS wrote: |
Tokina was in the 1970/1980 the SINGLE 17mm manufacturer (the only competitor was the Sigma 18mm) |
I assume you mean third party lenses....
Nikkor made the 18mm f4 in the K and AI versions from 74-82...which was replaced by the 18mm f3.5 AI-S in December of 81 and produced till December of 05.
Nikkor also produced even wider lenses with the 15mm f5.6 from 71-78 in the F,C,K and AI versions....which was replaced by the 15mm f3.5 AI in August of 78....and the extremely rare 13mm f5.6 in the K (35 copies produced)and AI (15 copies produced) versions from December of 75 to March of 82,when it was replaced by the rare AI-S version (302 copies produced).
The Nikkor fisheye 16mm 3.5 in the C,K, AI versions from 73-79....followed by the 16mm f2.8 from 79-82....this was replaced by the AI-S version in December of 81 and continued in production till 98 and is still produced in the AF version.
The Nikkor fisheye 10mm f5.6 F was produced from 68-76
Nikkor produced even wider fisheye lenses beginning in 62 till 65 with the 8mm f8 F ...this was followed by the 8mm f7.5 F from 66-70...this was replaced by the 8mm f2.8 from 70-82.
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PBFACTS
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| Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
| Boomer Depp wrote: |
| PBFACTS wrote: |
Tokina was in the 1970/1980 the SINGLE 17mm manufacturer (the only competitor was the Sigma 18mm) |
I assume you mean third party lenses....
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OF COURSE !
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OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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