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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: Color damaged scans |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Hello , friends !
Some time ago I received the Minolta Dimage Scan III (without ICE - shit !!! ) and began to scan my color negatives .I had the bad surprise that some films exposed in 1996 in a trip in Germany (don't remember the camera ,it was a compact anyway)have a magenta cast ,but not on all the surface of the frame , but like this:
any ideas how to fix that ?
all the other films are ok , scanned on the DS Dual 3 scanning program. I tried vith Vuescan trial version , doesn't help ! _________________ Cheers , Teo
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
Do you see this on the negative? or it's something with the film holder or scanner. |
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
std wrote: |
Do you see this on the negative? or it's something with the film holder or scanner. |
nope, the scanner is OK .All the other color 150 negs scanned , are fine _________________ Cheers , Teo
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agent_cooper
Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Posts: 139 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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agent_cooper wrote:
i like this magenta look, though it feels like from the 60-70's _________________
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
I don't know what tool you're using. In "the Gimp" is available a "select by color" tool. I would play with that to select the affected areas and then try to fix translating to left the green channel curve on the color curves tool.
With the film itself I think there's nothing to do anymore. A discoloration has probably started due to poor processing issues. Storage conditions may also have contributed, if you are sure you've done it properly then you're ok. Otherwise, somewhere in time, is possible that the other negs will start to go too.
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
marty wrote: |
I don't know what tool you're using. In "the Gimp" is available a "select by color" tool. I would play with that to select the affected areas and then try to fix translating to left the green channel curve on the color curves tool. |
Yep, Gimp in fact gives several ways to fix the magenta cast.
Here is the result if you use the "Color Balance" tool, and drag the Cyan/Red slider toward Cyan.
... and here is the result of taking the Levels tool, selecting the red channel, and dragging the midpoint to the right.
Color is always subjective... and as you can see, these two methods gave noticeably different results (especially in the coloring of the footpath)... but either way, the magenta cast in the sky has been reduced. I'm sure others here could do a better job... _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
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PaulC
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
In Photoshop I lassoed the discoloured area, put a large feather value on it, so the edges of the changes would fade gradually and adjusted the colour balance to -19 on Red to Blue and +9 on magenta to green. It's not perfect but you can get quite an improvement like that.
I didn't go into the tree, I probably should have done.
Here's another go at it, going right the way down the middle of the picture -
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Thank you all for the tips . These films were clearly poorly processed .
I'll try to change something in Gimp . _________________ Cheers , Teo
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
I think it looks more like a light leak than a processing problem. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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yinyangbt
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
PaulC wrote: |
I think it looks more like a light leak than a processing problem. |
It's curious , because the films were deposited in their canisters in a dark dry place , like the other films. the original photos are perfect ,they don't show such a tint. And the magenta area is more on the center of the frame as a wide longitudinal band .It respects the long borders of the frame. _________________ Cheers , Teo
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