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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Agfa Record II 6x9 Reply with quote
Recently won on ebay, and arrived yesterday. This cam was CLA'd by
Jurgen Kreckel (certo6) one of the best repair guys for folders in the US.

pics taken with Helios 44-2:







Really like the new hunter green leather bellows!

Bill

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Class.... Cool


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Man! First picture simple superb! Very, very good for any photographic related design.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, Attila and Bob, hope to run some film through it this weekend.

Attila, first shot was wide open at f2.

Bill


PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Really nice. Really, really nice Smile

There's something about the old folders that really strikes a chord with me - perhaps it's because I remember them being around when I was young. But even then they were starting to go out of regular use.


PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Farside and niblue, thanks for your comments. I'm looking forward to
using this cam the coming weekend.

Bill


PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your Apotar is bigger than mine! Crying or Very sad

Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Your Apotar is bigger than mine! Crying or Very sad

Laughing


Smile


PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congrats, Steve! Stopped-down to f8 or so, all lenses do pretty well.
Here's a link you might find of interest, this is the guy that did my
camera:

http://www.certo6.com/

and another:

http://www.cleanimages.com/Article-MediumFormatInYourPocket.asp

Bill


PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Even without the cleaning it looks pretty nice! I like that Medis rangefinder
too, need to find one of those on ebay. Still haven't shot mine, running
rolls through an Agfa Isolette 4.5 and one of my Oly 35 RC's so you have
a chance at beating Orio and me to the draw!

Congrats, Steve, and good luck!

Bill


PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
you have
a chance at beating Orio and me to the draw!


I'll come last for sure, I still have to receive mine, and even if I did, I am too busy with work.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bill, I'm as green as those bellows!! Smile And Steve, great bargain! I'll be in the market for one of these one day. Great link to Jurgen's site, thanks!


PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The more I look at Bill's Agfa, the more I want one of these old folders... Cool


PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bob and Peter, don't be envious, these go for pretty reasonable on
ebay!

Thanks for your comments,

Bill


PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bill, I had the Zeiss Ercona 6x9 with 105mm Tessar, until I gave it away to a young guy struggling to pay for college. That 6x9 format creates some stupendous transparencies, as you know. I have a little less than 1000 trannies from the Ercona and from an earlier 6x6 Isolette III with Solinar (also a "tessar" design).

My Epson 2450 hits a "sweet spot" with the 6x9 trannies and negs, and the output is stellar.

I have three 20x30s and one 24x24 on the walls, and they are so sharp that it almost seems surreal.

Have fun, and show us some of what that camera is capable of!

Best, Laurence


PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence, I've yet to run a roll through my Agfa Record, but am certainly
looking forward to scanning a 6x9 negative on my Epson 2450! At what
dpi did you scan yours? I was thinking of going with 1200 dpi when the
time comes.

Very generous of you to give away such a fine camera!

Bill


PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
My Epson 4490 only has mask for 6x6 format Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
My Epson 4490 only has mask for 6x6 format Sad

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Orio, it's just a square? That sucks! The 2450 filmholder is good for
6x6, 6x4.5, and 6x9. Forgot one, 6x7, too.

Bill


PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here's the camera I'm currently shooting film through, the Agfa Isolette
4.5 that I did my own CLA. Tripod arrived yesterday, an old Bilora
from Germany:



The Watameter rangefinder had several bad marks and scratches so
I painted the front plate black.

Bill


PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK Bill you win..... Laughing Cool


PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Laurence, I've yet to run a roll through my Agfa Record, but am certainly
looking forward to scanning a 6x9 negative on my Epson 2450! At what
dpi did you scan yours? I was thinking of going with 1200 dpi when the
time comes.
Bill


Bill, I scan for the web at only 400-800 dpi...usually only at 400dpi...with that big ol' transparency or negative, you just don't need more than that, especially if you are cutting the size down for the web to something like 600x600 or whatever, for viewing.

Also, I sometimes scan at 400 just to get a better idea of what it is going to look like as a digital file...a preview, if you will. If it looks like a true "keeper", then I go to what the next paragraph below says.

For an image that I know I'm going to want to keep because it came out really nice, I scan at 2400dpi to make a "master". Then, I can go ahead and work with that for printing, etc. and always have the high resolution scan available.

The wonderful thing about the trannies and negs is, of course, that I never worry about backups, and don't have to take the time to fool with sitting at the computer and backing up (leaves me more time to fool around on web sites like this one, haha!).

The "backup" is the slide or neg "sitting in sleeves in a notebook". How utterly archival and handy! Scan that puppy, and put it right back in the sleeve...no fuss, no muss! No degradation, and instantly available with a quick physical search, instead of trying to go through a whole bunch of disks...yacck.

One more thing I found for my particular scanner, is that I shim the holder with the thickness of two postcards, to raise it up slightly to the best distance for optimal sharpness. It's well worth taking a little time to experiment with your own.

Here's a typical result from a simple 400dpi scan for the web, and you can certainly see it's really all you need for these web sizes.

I also have a 2400dpi scan that I used for printing out a 30x30 for a friend, of this scene. You haven't LIVED until you have printed out a large print off of your medium format camera. His first impression was: "Larry, I can almost dive into that picture!" (Since he's not a photographer, but this is his favorite stretch of beach, I'll take that as a fine compliment for the sharpness of the print).

Steve, you are going to be amazed! Agnar, Apotar, Solinar, Tessar, Xenar, whatever...ALL those lenses will put out some stellar work for you.

Clearing Fog at the Headlands
Agfa Isolette III w/Solinar
Velvia 50
f:11 1/10th



PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Larry, thanks much for the pointers! That is one beautiful pic, luv
that Velvia!

I think the first roll in the Record II will be Fujicolor Pro 160. Someday
I will have to try Velvia. Developing slide film is rather expensive here:
$10 for a 12 exp roll.


Bill


PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Larry, thanks much for the pointers! That is one beautiful pic, luv
that Velvia!
I think the first roll in the Record II will be Fujicolor Pro 160. Someday
I will have to try Velvia. Developing slide film is rather expensive here:
$10 for a 12 exp roll.
Bill


That will be a great film! The nice thing about Fuji 160, is that all of the 160 series, whether it 160NC or 160VC, takes great portraiture as well as great for landscapes.

Don't overlook Portra 400 UC (now called Ultra Color 400); simply a beautiful film with virtually zero grain and fine colors. I was amazed with the first roll I shot with it.

Looking forward to some test shots!


PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bill wrote:
Someday
I will have to try Velvia.


You won't be disappointed if you do.

Get the 50 ASA stock and be amazed. Cool


PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bob955i wrote:
You won't be disappointed if you do.

Get the 50 ASA stock and be amazed. Cool


Thanks, Bob, I'll have to try it!

Bill
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