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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Milanos wrote:
Great changes and I fully agree with Rolf, the upgrade of searching parametres would help a lot. New members (I´m still new to this forum) are 100% searching for opinions, pictures and experiences of several lenses and If I input into searching bar e.g. Zeiss pancolar, it shows hundreds of thread where either of those words are mentioned. And that is only half of the function.

Otherwise the forum gets 5 out of 5.

Thanks


Use topic title only option.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I really like the organization...

I will not print B&W in the darkroom. So, my b&w scans of home developed film don't really fit the section?


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nesster wrote:
I really like the organization...
I will not print B&W in the darkroom. So, my b&w scans of home developed film don't really fit the section?


They should go to the Main or Oversized galleries.
The purpose of the B&W prints section is to promote home printing.

There is another possibility, to re-address the gallery as B&W film gallery in general. In that case we could also use direct-to-scanner negatives.
But not converted colour film.
It should be always stated whether it's scanned negatives or scanned prints.

Let's gather opinions, let me know what option you prefer.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
+1 for the new layout ...

Got lost at first, but now i feel better with the new organization ...


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
New layout = Cool

Experience so far = Very Happy

Now I had a late update on an old thread - an error message came up = no entries, even though it did update Confused
(Could the code need tweaking?)

As for my opinion on B+W, allow scanned images if they are really B+W negative based. Some of us have film scanners as a darkroom with enlargers etc isn't really an option. The only other criteria should be that manipulations should be limited to those that can be done by an enlarger - contrast, brightness, etc.

Jim


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
j.lukow wrote:
New layout = Cool

Experience so far = Very Happy


Me2

Quote:
As for my opinion on B+W, allow scanned images if they are really B+W negative based. Some of us have film scanners as a darkroom with enlargers etc isn't really an option. The only other criteria should be that manipulations should be limited to those that can be done by an enlarger - contrast, brightness, etc.

Jim

And what about sharpening? The term "unsharp mask" comes from a darkrooom technique for sharpening by creating a slightly blurred (unsharp) positive copy of the image and using it as a mask under the enlarger to remove soft edges in the original neg. So maybe a touch of sharpening is permissible too?


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think that whatever editing is meant to improve the image without making of it something else, is ok.
Sharpening after scanning and resizing is more a necessity than a choice.

Of course it is impossible to make rules and boundaries for everything.
Good sense by people is required.

Turning a scanned negative sepia or blue with a digital operation is in my opinion something different than some compensation sharpening or adjusting black point while scanning.
Sharpening and basic leveling (black point, gamma) are meant to optimize a scan, while colouring, or more strong level editing like curves, are more a digital transformation of the image than a basic adjustment.

But again, we can not set rules for everything, else people will not post their images.

We must rely on the common sense of the members.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm glad you said that!


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd just like to add I'm very happy with the direction the forum is taking to promote film. Thank you for your work to reorganise the threads Orio.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
j.lukow wrote:


Now I had a late update on an old thread - an error message came up = no entries, even though it did update Confused
(Could the code need tweaking?)


I've noticed that a few times on ancient threads that have been resurrected. During their time in the vaults they've matured, a bit like smelly cheese, or old socks, but also suffered from bit rot.
Actually, I think it occurs when someone deletes their post and the page counter gets confused.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great job Orio
I just came back from vacation and this is what greets me! Love it


patrickh


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good job. Like very much the new categorized look. As a film user myself I can only approve the choice of the administrators to promote this media. Again, great job.
marty.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
We have completed the reorganization of the galleries.
It really didn't make much sense to have sections for slides and B&W and not for colour film negatives.
So now the galleries are split into four sections (digital, slides, colour negatives, B&W negatives).

I think this organization makes much sense.
It also helps with evaluating the lenses, to keep the medium separate.
And it gives visibility to film.

The two generic galleries (Oversized and Equipment) will continue their purpose, unless sometimes in the future we should decide to change the politics about image sizes,
in which case of course the Oversized gallery will be reconsidered.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks very well organized. I like it!

I just bought me a scanner, so for me the new galleries will perhaps be for showing something from all my old slides and negatives.


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very good job by the forum staff Cool


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm sure this has been discussed to death - but I could not find it.

I have a question... Would it be possible to have a humble, small subboard for photos taken with AF lenses? I have some very fine glass (Pentax Limiteds anyone?) and would like to show some shots to our members from time to time. Maybe even in a subboard that's only accessible to members with 100+ posts (in order to keep this board MF-oriented to newcomers and search engines).

...or will I be lynched now? Laughing


PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
spot wrote:
...or will I be lynched now?

Mr. Green Twisted Evil


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like the change. One question though, is moving some posts around still in the works? I know all my posted photos are either from color or b&w negatives and are directly scanned but they are still in the digital section. Not to rush anything, I was just curious.

~Marc


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
themoleman342 wrote:
I like the change. One question though, is moving some posts around still in the works? I know all my posted photos are either from color or b&w negatives and are directly scanned but they are still in the digital section. Not to rush anything, I was just curious.

~Marc



Yes, possible by mods, I did start to do it but very slow process if I can't identify from title like sensia, portra etc . Need to do by hands and takes lot of time. If you find your posts , put into title b&w for example for b&w pictures and slide or slide name like Provia for slides etc. Let me know when it is done and I will move them to right Galleries in batch.


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spotmatic wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed to death - but I could not find it.

I have a question... Would it be possible to have a humble, small subboard for photos taken with AF lenses? I have some very fine glass (Pentax Limiteds anyone?) and would like to show some shots to our members from time to time. Maybe even in a subboard that's only accessible to members with 100+ posts (in order to keep this board MF-oriented to newcomers and search engines).

...or will I be lynched now? Laughing


hi Spotmatic
yes, it was already discussed (at least in the moderators forum, don't know if in a general forum) and the consensus of the majority was that it wouldn't make much sense for a manual focus lenses forum, to have a forum for autofocus lenses, and that the spaces that are already provided to post autofocus lenses images - the Café, as off-topic, or the various Camera forums if an image serves for the discussion of the camera - are enough.
However, you can post a poll on the subject, and if Attila and the Moderators (doesn't it sound like a 50s band name by the way Laughing ) will see that there is an overwhelimg demand for an autofocus forum, they might change their mind Wink


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for your reply, Orio. I would be perfectly fine with posting my photos in the off-topic sub-boards. But if others want me to start a poll on this, I will gladly do so. I'd love to see the performance of "Attila and the Moderators"! Very Happy


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Attila and the Moderators (doesn't it sound like a 50s band name by the way Laughing )



PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK, I sing (or I play the drums)... Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Couple suggestions(?) after using the board for a couple days...

1. Possibly change the gallery name to "Slide Film" not "Slides"
2. Maybe remove "Gallery" after every subforum heading??
3. What about having one Film and one Digital Gallery but using thread prefixes. Example: Have a drop-down menu for Slide, Color, B&W, Special in the "Film Gallery"...and/or have a format selection menu like 35mm, 120, 4x5, etc.

So an example thread title could be something like "[35mm Color] Some city shots with the VUWS" or another could be "[120 B&W] Shapes in the sun"

Just some thoughts Cool And I hope they make sense Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ryan s wrote:
Couple suggestions(?) after using the board for a couple days...

1. Possibly change the gallery name to "Slide Film" not "Slides"
2. Maybe remove "Gallery" after every subforum heading??
3. What about having one Film and one Digital Gallery but using thread prefixes. Example: Have a drop-down menu for Slide, Color, B&W, Special in the "Film Gallery"...and/or have a format selection menu like 35mm, 120, 4x5, etc.

So an example thread title could be something like "[35mm Color] Some city shots with the VUWS" or another could be "[120 B&W] Shapes in the sun"

Just some thoughts Cool And I hope they make sense Laughing



1) Fixed, thank you for your care!
2) Not sure I can't decide let we see other member opinion too.
3) Not agree.
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