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calvin83
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Valjo, congratulations on an incredible deal. The 50mm f/3.5 Elmar is probably the sharpest lens that Leitz has ever made. It may be slow, but it is an amazingly good optic.
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It's a Russian fake. However, it may not be bad either.
I've compared the shown picture with some original lenses from the Leicashop. They are looking a little bit different. |
The Elmar should be a genuine copy(triple checked myself). However, I am not an Leica expert. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:44 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
tb_a wrote: |
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Valjo, congratulations on an incredible deal. The 50mm f/3.5 Elmar is probably the sharpest lens that Leitz has ever made. It may be slow, but it is an amazingly good optic.
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It's a Russian fake. However, it may not be bad either.
I've compared the shown picture with some original lenses from the Leicashop. They are looking a little bit different. |
The Elmar should be a genuine copy(triple checked myself). However, I am not an Leica expert. |
The front scale and markings are rather good but still there are minimal differences.
However, even the FED 50/3.5 which is most probably the basis of this lens and an (almost) 100% copy of the Elmar is a very good bargain for Euro 1.50 and it's definitely not a bad lens.
I've compared my FED 50/3.5 from 1931 and my KMZ Industar 22 50/3.5 from 1951 with the pictures of some original Leitz ones and the picture shown here. I have to admit that it's rather tricky. But I am still convinced that Valjo's lens is a fake, i.e. rather a FED lens.
A very obvious difference:
Original:
Valjo's picture: _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here).
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:10 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
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Minolta MD 4/200mm CHF 12.--
Konica Hexar 4/200mm CHF 4.--
Konica Hexanon 3.2/135mm CHF 5.--
Tokina AT-X 2.8/35-70mm CHF 25.--
Minolta Dynax 9 CHF 99.--
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Very nice finds!!
Especially the Hexanon f3.2/135. I was bidding for one that started cheaply on evilBay but the auction ended with a bidding frenzy.
Sunday is the worst day on ebay for buyers in the USA. |
Yes ... when i bought it i didn't know how good it actually is. The Konica Hexanon 3.5/135mm (second version) is not bad at all, similar to the contemporary Minolta 3.5/135mm designs, but the 3.2/135mm is even a tiny bit better. And it focuses down to 1m, which is really useful for portrait work.
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:20 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
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Valjo, congratulations on an incredible deal. The 50mm f/3.5 Elmar is probably the sharpest lens that Leitz has ever made. It may be slow, but it is an amazingly good optic.
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The Leitz Elmar 3.5/50mm certainly is a legend, but it is NOT a good lens at all. I have tested it - together with a few other vintage lenses from Leitz and Zeiss on a NEX-5N (16 MP APS-C):
http://www.artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/320-nex-5n-und-klassische-50mm-zeiss-leitz-objektive
Now look at Minolta normal lenses from the 1970-1980 area - they usually are dirt cheap and at the same time much better than the Elmar:
http://www.artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/322-nex-5n-und-minolta-50mm-objektive-teil-ii
A Minolta MD-II 1.7/50mm from 1979 is better at f1.7 than the Elmar at f11 ...
But of course it's fun to use an old Leica III and the 3.5/5cm Elmar. That's how i learned to take picture, at the age of 15 ...
Greez
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:30 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Stephan, that's a totally different story.
However, those old Elmars are still sold for 200 to 400 Euros. That's crazy enough. If such a lens can be found for 2 Euros or even less then it would certainly be a big bargain. There is no doubt about that. But as I already found out, it's definitely no Elmar (as shown in my pictures above). _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3073 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:58 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
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Yeah, sorry for the error. I realized it after I posted the message, then went back and corrected it, and for some reason a duplicate was made. I deleted all I could of the first one, leaving the second, which does mention Hungary, btw. So sorry for the oversight and good luck at your selling your lenses and stuff. |
No problem, I thought that you were tired when you made the mistake. I am from Fullerton, California actually.
Birth place of the Fender guitar! I lived in Dallas, Texas for twelve years also. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Cool! I like Fullerton. I attended CSUF, got my BA and MA there. Fond memories of that school. And my '96 50th Anniversary Strat is one of my favorite guitars. And I see you were no doubt "Texanized" if you lived in Dallas that long. I was born and raised around Houston, TX, but spent the first quarter-century of my adult life in SoCal. I miss the place, but I don't miss the people -- way too many loonies have infested it now. _________________ Michael
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Several days ago, I mentioned here that I was the successful bidder on eBay for a Tamron SP 24-48 zoom. Paid 55GBP (about $86US) for it. It arrived yesterday. It is in almost mint condition, so I'm very happy I could get it for such a good price. I was really surprised at just how small it is! It's about the same size is my 24mm primes when fully retracted. My Vivitar Series 1 24-48 dwarfs it. In fact, the page on this zoom over at adaptall-2.org emphasizes its compactness by showing a comparison of equivalent, or close to equivalent optics:
http://adaptall-2.org/lenses/13A.html
The page also compares this zoom to the Minolta 24-50/4. I gotta say the Minolta definitely outperforms this Tamron, resolution-wise, but the Minolta Rokkor-X is uncommon and expensive. The Minolta AF 24-50 is much more common and cheaper, so it's a viable option for Sony alpha shooters. As for this Tamron, I'll have to see how it really does with my own cameras. On my NEX 7, it'll be a normal to short telephoto, so I'll have to use it with one of my film cameras to really tell the difference. I think I'll use it with the Canon FD mount. That way I can compare it against my FD 24/2.8 SSC, my FD-mount Vivitar 35/1.9, Canon 50/1.4 SSC, and my FD-mount Vivitar S1 24-48/3.8.
Stay tuned . . . _________________ Michael
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Billou
Joined: 01 Feb 2013 Posts: 169 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Billou wrote:
I was browsing ebay and saw a new listing, few seconds old, selling a Schacht 85mm f/2.8 for Exakta for 55 euros... I bought it, and I am actually very impressed by the lens. It's perfectly sharp wide open, has no CA, the bokeh is fantastic, it's really a big surprise. I have yet to test it more...
F/2.8 on Sony A7II:
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konicamera
Joined: 03 May 2009 Posts: 746 Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:24 am Post subject: |
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konicamera wrote:
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That crop is absolutely amazing! _________________
L'homme s'ennuie du bien, cherche le mieux, trouve le mal, et s'y soummet, crainte du pire. - Duc François-Gaston de Lévis
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Billou
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:30 am Post subject: |
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The subject is creepy but yes, the copy I got seems to be pretty awesome. I will take a walk with it this afternoon and post some results ! |
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konicamera
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:36 am Post subject: |
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konicamera wrote:
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The subject is creepy but yes, the copy I got seems to be pretty awesome. I will take a walk with it this afternoon and post some results ! |
Actually, I'm not at all certain what that critter is up to. I was referring to your lens' optical properties. Astounding detail. _________________
L'homme s'ennuie du bien, cherche le mieux, trouve le mal, et s'y soummet, crainte du pire. - Duc François-Gaston de Lévis
While it is nice to be important, it's more important to be nice.
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Hi Michael, we both like the same lenses.
_________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hey kryss, I wish mine would have come with that nice tulip hood, but it didn't. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a copy for not too much money on eBay.
A few days ago, I took a chance and bid on a Canon EF over at the Goodwill auction site. I ended up paying more than I wanted to -- $71 -- knowing that it was untested, and not having a very good experience at all with previous EFs I've bought recently (and then returned because they were dead).
Well, the EF arrived yesterday and today I stuffed some batteries in it and, hoping for the best but expecting the worst, I pushed in the battery check button and -- voila! It blinked! So I tried the slow (electronic) shutter speeds, and they worked too. Finally I checked the meter, and it responded to light as well. At last, I've found an EF that works! So, on balance, I guess $71 is not a bad deal, especially when comparing EFs that work on eBay. This Goodwill find is actually pretty clean. Very faint brassing on the corners and a couple of very small dings. Here's a photo of it. I mounted the lens for effect. I haven't cleaned it up yet, so it looks kind of grungy. But it should clean up fine.
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Certainly not the "biggest bargain", but a nice find today at a flea market:
Asahi "Pentax S1", Super Takumar 1.4/50mm, Auto Takumar 2.2/55mm and Takumar 3.5/135mm from about 1961 (only the Super-Tak is from 1966) for CHF 25 (= EUR / USD 25)
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kryss
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Stevemark..... Nice S1.I have over 60 Pentax cameras ...Why not? _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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kryss
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Nice one Michael,should clean up great. I found amongst the few remaining remnants of my Canon FD era a very nice 28-50mm f3.5 S.S.C.Macro/CF. so I can compare it to the Tamron.The hood for the Tamron is extremely hard to find as is the front bayonet cap.I have had mine from new c/w all boxes. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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!Karen
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 837 Location: Belgium Baby
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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!Karen wrote:
Not sure if this can go here because it's no MF stuff
But today I bought:
- nikon D50 with 28-80mm lens
- sony a200 with 18-70 lens
For 45€
I know they are pretty old dslr's but I think the a200 would be fun to use old minolta AF lenses on _________________ FLICKR PHOTOSTREAM |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
!Karen wrote: |
Not sure if this can go here because it's no MF stuff
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Nah, it's ok. A good deal is a good deal and most all of us shoot digital too. _________________ Michael
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WNG555
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:24 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
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Certainly not the "biggest bargain", but a nice find today at a flea market:
Asahi "Pentax S1", Super Takumar 1.4/50mm, Auto Takumar 2.2/55mm and Takumar 3.5/135mm from about 1961 (only the Super-Tak is from 1966) for CHF 25 (= EUR / USD 25)
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Another great deal! Great condition too.
I paid that much for the Super Takumar 50 f/1.4 alone! And was considered a good price here in the 'States. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Certainly not the "biggest bargain", but a nice find today at a flea market:
Asahi "Pentax S1", Super Takumar 1.4/50mm, Auto Takumar 2.2/55mm and Takumar 3.5/135mm from about 1961 (only the Super-Tak is from 1966) for CHF 25 (= EUR / USD 25)
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Great find.
Was the 35mm f2.3 also part of the discovery?
If so, then a stupendous find I think
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:46 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Let's see.....my latest LBA evidence:
I lost out on that Hexanon AR 135 f/3.2.....
but consoled myself with a Hexanon AR 135 f/3.5 AE for $3.50 USD. In perfect condition with rear cap and a UV filter.
A Nippon Kogaku Nikkor-Q 20cm f/4 for $6.50.
Vivitar 35mm f/2.8 by Komine in FD mount, for $9.
Vivitar 105mm f/2.8 T4 by Tokina w/Nikon F mount: $20.
Vivitar 28mm f/2.8 T4 by Tokina w/Miranda mount: $10.
Tokina RMC 28-70mm f/4 zoom: $8.
Not sure why I bought this since I have their AT-X 28-85 f/3.5-4.5, for $6.70. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3073 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:12 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
WNG555 wrote: |
Let's see.....my latest LBA evidence:
I lost out on that Hexanon AR 135 f/3.2.....
but consoled myself with a Hexanon AR 135 f/3.5 AE for $3.50 USD. In perfect condition with rear cap and a UV filter.
A Nippon Kogaku Nikkor-Q 20cm f/4 for $6.50.
Vivitar 35mm f/2.8 by Komine in FD mount, for $9.
Vivitar 105mm f/2.8 T4 by Tokina w/Nikon F mount: $20.
Vivitar 28mm f/2.8 T4 by Tokina w/Miranda mount: $10.
Tokina RMC 28-70mm f/4 zoom: $8.
Not sure why I bought this since I have their AT-X 28-85 f/3.5-4.5, for $6.70. |
Good deals!
Did you buy these on ebay? |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:58 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
uddhava wrote: |
WNG555 wrote: |
Let's see.....my latest LBA evidence:
I lost out on that Hexanon AR 135 f/3.2.....
but consoled myself with a Hexanon AR 135 f/3.5 AE for $3.50 USD. In perfect condition with rear cap and a UV filter.
A Nippon Kogaku Nikkor-Q 20cm f/4 for $6.50.
Vivitar 35mm f/2.8 by Komine in FD mount, for $9.
Vivitar 105mm f/2.8 T4 by Tokina w/Nikon F mount: $20.
Vivitar 28mm f/2.8 T4 by Tokina w/Miranda mount: $10.
Tokina RMC 28-70mm f/4 zoom: $8.
Not sure why I bought this since I have their AT-X 28-85 f/3.5-4.5, for $6.70. |
Good deals!
Did you buy these on ebay? |
Yes, on evilBay. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
My Flickr |
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Billou
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Billou wrote:
Just found a Praktica body, offered for 55 euros... With a nice Flektogon 35/2.4 on it ! The lens is brand new ! |
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