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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Athens
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: Home-made SLR to View Camera Conversion |
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pniaouris wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pavlosfotosathgr/5400091495/
A home made (d)SLR to View Camera Conversion with Pentax P30t
and Volna 80/2,8 P6 mount .
Can mount any lens and any SLR , shift 20mm any direction , tilt limited only by the space left between camera/lens , the rail moves the front or back brace or moves itself front & back , one of the braces alone can be used as a pano head , and replacing the lens board with a film holder and mounting an enlarger lens with macro tubes on the camera converts it to a slide copier .
A lighter , smaller , stiffer , easier to handle and more handsome version is on my workbench , and will be possibly ready at about the end of March .
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Home-made SLR to View Camera Conversion |
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Attila wrote:
pniaouris wrote: |
A home made (d)SLR to View Camera Conversion with Pentax P30t
and Volna 80/2,8 P6 mount .
Can mount any lens and any SLR , shift 20mm any direction , tilt limited only by the space left between camera/lens , the rail moves the front or back brace or moves itself front & back , one of the braces alone can be used as a pano head , and replacing the lens board with a film holder and mounting an enlarger lens with macro tubes on the camera converts it to a slide copier .
A lighter , smaller , stiffer , easier to handle and more handsome version is on my workbench , and will be possibly ready at about the end of March . |
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Welcome! Pretty interesting cam! Please share some photos too , taken with this camera. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
I'd love to know the build-cost and equipments for something like this. I know there are stuff on the market like the Zork adapters, but they're much too expensive... _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Athens
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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pniaouris wrote:
Here are a couple of pictures made with the device .
As about the cost it is really big . This is the 3d version and as some parts were made in a machinery workshop , plans changed , lenses bought an finally found not idoneous for the purpose , column drills and other machinery bought to be able to make it home etc , it can be justified only if I can produce and sell it .
It can be made much simpler , but if I want to sell it , it must be sturdy , easy to handle , light etc . |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Athens
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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pniaouris wrote:
Sorry , I think info on my previous post is too limited so I continue .
About the fotos first , they are both shot using an Helios 44/2 58mm f:2
lens and a Pentax K10d .
As about making something like this , it's easy to make something less complicated ( and expensive ) using three microfocusing rails ( the stuff sold on e-bay for $12 each including postage ) , an L brace and a straight
bar of aluminium ( or even wood ) . You fasten the L brace on one rail so that it can shift right and left . It can also swing on it's fastening screw .
The second rail is fastened on the vertical leg of the L and carries a second , smaller L where you can mount the camera body by the thread
you usually mount it on a tripod . The second L can swing back and forth on it's mounting screw .
So you have the body that swings and shifts . All you need now is a plate to mount the lens , and the third rail to variate the distance between them . Use the alu bar to put them in a reasonable distance between them and focus with the rail . The lens is mounted on an old filter ring
glued in a hole on the plate , and a punch shaped bellows is mounted on both camera and lens .
As it's more difficult to explain than make , you can see some suggesting fotos here
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1557326@N22/ |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Interesting but not sure I'll try it.
Welcome to the group. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:22 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
Coool, thanks for the info. I actually might try something. What makes what YOU want to do more complicated and expensive? _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Athens
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:00 am Post subject: |
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pniaouris wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pavlosfotosathgr/sets/72157624108080127/
As you can see in this flickr set , it started as a toy , and it went on more and more laborious .
In the begining I wanted to play , and the cost ( and risk ) was a 40 euro
bill . Then , shift movements , parts made by specialised people , MF lenses , design errors , rised the cost up to the point that I should make a perfect machine or nothing .
And a perfect machine has to be handsome , easy to handle , rigid , light and compact . On the other hand , having a perfect machine , one can hope to sell a couple of copies , to have refunded part of the cost
for the development .
I don't still have the final thing , but I'm too close to .
As about a self made stuff , the first attempt I did worked , and it would do better , if I had mounted a couple of rails on the brace , the way I describe in my previous post . |
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rawhead
Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Posts: 1525 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:03 am Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
What price range are you thinking about if you'll sell it? If it's significantly cheaper than the Zörk offerings, I will seriously consider it. _________________ Sony α7R, Pentax 67II, Kiev-60, Hasselblad 203FE, 903SWC, Graflex Norita 66, Mamiya M645 1000s, Burke & James 8x10, Graflex Pacemaker Speed Graphic (4x5 and 3x4), Century Graphic (2x3), R.B. Graflex Seried D, Rolleiflex SL66E, Rolleiflex 2.8C Xenotar, Mamiya C330f, a few M42, six P6, three OM, four Hasselblad, two Pentax 67, two Mamiya 645, one Noritar, and a sprinkle of EF. Oh, and an Aero Ektar and Leica Noctilux |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
Wow, this is really a great project!
I have to say, as a fellow P30t owner, it sure is nice to see such a humble camera being showcased for the photo shoot.
Please keep us posted here on the development of your next version! If it really does end up being "lighter, smaller, stiffer, easier to handle and more handsome", that's going to be quite a nice piece of equipment! _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
Nikon: 18-55/3.5-5.6 "G ED II DX" (F) Soligor: 28/2.8 (FL->F converted), 135/3.5 (F), 3x TC (F, modified) Kalimar: 28-85/3.5 (F)
Vivitar: 70-210/2.8-4.0 Version 3 (F), Tele 500/6.3 Preset (F), 19/3.8 (F) Minolta: 300/5.6 (SR/MC/MD pending F conversion)
Tamron: 28/2.8 (Adaptall) Panagor: 28/2.5 (FD) Aetna: 300/5.6 (F) Osawa: MC 28/2.8 (F)
Vintage Lenses: Dallmeyer: 1940s A.M. 14in 356mm f4 (ULF->M42) 1930s Adon Telephoto Taylor, Taylor & Hobson: 1880s Rapid Rectilinear 8 1/2 x 6 1/2 11.31in f/8 (LF->?)
Parts Lenses: Nikon 35-135/3.5-4.5 (F), Sigma 70-210/4.5 (F), Nikon 50/1.8 Series E (F) |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Athens
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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pniaouris wrote:
It's going to be a modular system . One brace alone is a panohead , as it can move the camera back and forth in respect to the swinging axis so that you can make it coincide with the nodal point of the lens and have no parallax . Also it should be used alone with a simple lens plate and a focusing rail for only-back-tilt-shift movements . The brace will cost ( approx ) 400 $ . Two braces for full movement possibility , accompanied by a three movements rail ( focusing by moving the back , or the lens ,
or the whole thing for makro ) will cost 800 $ . In both cases a bellows with mounts for camera and lens will come along with the brace(s) . |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Athens
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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pniaouris wrote:
Scheimpflug wrote: |
Wow, this is really a great project!
I have to say, as a fellow P30t owner, it sure is nice to see such a humble camera being showcased for the photo shoot.
Please keep us posted here on the development of your next version! If it really does end up being "lighter, smaller, stiffer, easier to handle and more handsome", that's going to be quite a nice piece of equipment! |
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?p=1238775#1238775
I couldn't find the original thread and opened a new one |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Athens
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:27 am Post subject: |
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pniaouris wrote:
The site for "Geometry" is finally uploaded . Here's a link to it
http://bluescargo.gr/geometry/ |
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
What a great piece of work. And impressive pictures. Congratulations. _________________ John |
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pniaouris
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Athens
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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pniaouris wrote:
thanks sichko |
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