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Attila
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| Väsen wrote: | Hello!
I hope I'm resurrecting a worthwhile cause and not beating a dead horse.
This is a thread to post pictures of fungus cases, but as there have also been a few queries I thought I'd ask too.
Some time ago I got a Jupiter 37A that had lots of little specks covering a whole element, more towards the edges (no strands). After asking around it seemed chances were rather good it was just that, so I gave it to someone, who said he took it apart and "did not see anything with my eyes but noted some strands of fungus when I took it apart" or something to that effect.
I recently got a Volna 9, and it looks quite the same, but it's on a central element and is rather hard to see with your eyes and quite impossible to photograph. Moreover the ratio of specks between the center and the edges is more even than for the Jupiter. However, as it looks mostly like the Jupiter, I'll show a pic of it and ask for people's opinion:
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome! I think this is trace path of drying, lens cleaning fluid went to inner elements and when it is dried left this small spots.
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| uhoh7 wrote: | | Attila wrote: | | Oh yes, clean only if necessary , it is impact much on images other ways left as is. |
I've found a good guy for reasonable price to CLA.
Attila--you think it is better not to clean? |
If he is trustworthy experienced guy risk is little , better to clean than left as is.
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Väsen
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, thanks for the quick reply.
I see the img tags work in the preview, and when quoted, but not in the actual post, hmm.
Oh well, your answer gives me hope that the Volna isn't suffering from fungus, so time to take it for a spin while I wait for my desiccant packs to arrive : ) |
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Väsen wrote: | Wow, thanks for the quick reply.
I see the img tags work in the preview, and when quoted, but not in the actual post, hmm.
Oh well, your answer gives me hope that the Volna isn't suffering from fungus, so time to take it for a spin while I wait for my desiccant packs to arrive : ) |
No image, url in first post , help to keep away spammers.
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VisualDarkness
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Is this fungus? It's like a ring around the inside of the front element but with a "knot" as seen in the picture. It looks orange trough the glass and is only see-able in a angle like the photo with a lamp shining about 90 degrees from the other side of the where the camera was (wow, that was a bad explanation). It's a Sigma 28mm.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| VisualDarkness wrote: | | Is this fungus? It looks orange trough the glass and is only see-able in a angle like the photo with a lamp shining about 90 degrees from the other side of the where the camera was (wow, that was a bad explanation). |
That's separation.
It happens when the optical cement that is supposed to keep together two pieces of glass, actually dries out and separate.
The remains of orange colour are the residuals of dried cement.
It is fixable, but only by people who know what they're doing and who have access to optical cement of quality.
I'm afraid that it will cost more than the value of the lens, so my suggestion is to use the lens as is until it's possible,
then, when the image quality degrades too much, to simply buy another lens.
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VisualDarkness
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Orio wrote: | | VisualDarkness wrote: | | Is this fungus? It looks orange trough the glass and is only see-able in a angle like the photo with a lamp shining about 90 degrees from the other side of the where the camera was (wow, that was a bad explanation). |
That's separation.
It happens when the optical cement that is supposed to keep together two pieces of glass, actually dries out and separate.
The remains of orange colour are the residuals of dried cement.
It is fixable, but only by people who know what they're doing and who have access to optical cement of quality.
I'm afraid that it will cost more than the value of the lens, so my suggestion is to use the lens as is until it's possible,
then, when the image quality degrades too much, to simply buy another lens. |
Actually I find it to be good news, at least better than fungus as I don't have to worry about it spreading to other equipment. The lens is a bit soft with a small bloom-effect (maybe the separation explains it) but I actually like it. It may not be sharp as other lenses but got its character.
I'm examining all the lenses I've bought so far to get rid of ones I don't like so I will probably post more pics of other cases. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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****.....at least better than fungus as I don't have to worry about it spreading to other equipment****
You probably have more fungus/mould spores on your body than on your lens.....over 2000 species, so wear a full chemical suit when handling your lenses 
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VisualDarkness
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Excalibur wrote: | ****.....at least better than fungus as I don't have to worry about it spreading to other equipment****
You probably have more fungus/mould spores on your body than on your lens.....over 2000 species, so wear a full chemical suit when handling your lenses |
I know that, but after reading everything about that you never should store moldy lenses with "clean" ones in the camera bag I got a bit anxious about it. 
Maybe a chemical suit and only use lenses in a sterile environment isn't such a bad idea? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| VisualDarkness wrote: | | Excalibur wrote: | ****.....at least better than fungus as I don't have to worry about it spreading to other equipment****
You probably have more fungus/mould spores on your body than on your lens.....over 2000 species, so wear a full chemical suit when handling your lenses |
I know that, but after reading everything about that you never should store moldy lenses with "clean" ones in the camera bag I got a bit anxious about it.
Maybe a chemical suit and only use lenses in a sterile environment isn't such a bad idea? |
Even Nasa can't keep these nasties out e.g. :-
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/ast26nov_1/
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| VisualDarkness wrote: | | Excalibur wrote: | ****.....at least better than fungus as I don't have to worry about it spreading to other equipment****
You probably have more fungus/mould spores on your body than on your lens.....over 2000 species, so wear a full chemical suit when handling your lenses |
I know that, but after reading everything about that you never should store moldy lenses with "clean" ones in the camera bag I got a bit anxious about it.
Maybe a chemical suit and only use lenses in a sterile environment isn't such a bad idea? |
Never store any lens in camera bag , this is right expression, store lenses in a safe place , where is humidity is low, without caps to get light throw and in dust free environment. My solution is a transparent plastic box, with huge amount of silica gel or other humidity remover.
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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I saw this lens on local auction owner said it has glue problem around edges or perhaps fungus, mold 
One of the most extensive fungus what I ever seen.
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| It's so pronounced that it almost looks artsy! |
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I have never seen this been reported but what about the common antiseptic Betadine 10% solution (povidone-iodine) to cure fungus infections?????
It kills everything from bacteria to fungus in 30 secs...
One plus is that it is not acidic and mild enough to be used in skin .
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