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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: Fungus on lens |
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Attila wrote:
I started this thread to inform people how can recognize fungus on lens before buy.
Many seller says they are not familiar with photographic items, but they also say lens in perfect order optically excellent etc.
I'd like if you send here pictures taken from lenses with fungus to learn how can we avoid to pay full payment for a lens with fungus.
Shot with E-1 . at 1969-12-31 _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila I think this is an EXCELLENT idea that you had!
I wanted to make this thread sticky but apparently it's not possible to "stick" it after it was published.
Maybe you can find a way around it? (and perhaps add a control to "stick" -and also "unstick"- threads after publishing, which would be useful in many other situations)
What about providing full size pictures?
I will try to contribute with my fungused lenses. I will send you the pictures then you can decide if it's a good example or not.
And maybe you can associate with this thread a tutorial on fugus treatment? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I could make to sticky, I suppose 800x600 image size maximum is enough as full size and a crop if it is important. To browse bigger size is inconvenience in my opinion. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I could make to sticky, I suppose 800x600 image size maximum is enough as full size and a crop if it is important. To browse bigger size is inconvenience in my opinion. |
Yes I meant to offer links to full size. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
That is ok, do it. _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Good idea! There are several manifestations of fungus. Maybe we can add different pictures here... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Jigt
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Jigt wrote:
Is this Fungus? look at the third picture!
Click here to see on Ebay _________________ nature pictures at www.ranaphoto.net
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Jigt wrote: |
Is this Fungus? look at the third picture!
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90% yes _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Hard to say. Some pictures are pretty noisy, so they are no good to tell if there is fungus or not. The pic that shows the rear glass also seems to show some fungus, but as I said, I couldn't tell for sure... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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naplam
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 469 Location: Spain
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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naplam wrote:
He says this:
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VERY VERY SLIGHT HAZE STAIN INNER REAR INNER ELEMENT |
Look around the element, the inner metal contacting the lens looks "grainy". I think it must be fungus. The "haze" alone could be oil from the blades or something but I think it's fungus. The seller probably knows exactly what it is, but describing it this way he can say he warned you! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: fungus on back lens Nikkor 300mm f4.5 ED |
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Attila wrote:
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Oh, Attila, this Vivitar looks bad! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
:lol Yes, but not a common lens I was happy to take it even with fungus. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
How do you store a lens with such a fungus infection, Attila? _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
In a separate box with humidity remover.Works fine, there is lenses with lot of fungus like this and with some almost unrecognizable spots they never spread or growing. Humidity is around 35% and box made from clear plastic. _________________ -------------------------------
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belba
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: |
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belba wrote:
A great Idea to open this theme. In the last day I bought a lens in a dark second hand shop. So I was not enable to see the lens at full light. Now I think I have my first lens infectec with fungus. I will take some shoots soon here and post it of this about 40 years old lens.
cheers
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, belba something like this happened to me as well.
But depending on storage you can stop the fungus from spreading and growing. Attila's way is the optimum. Just keep them well lit and dry. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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belba
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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belba wrote:
Ok here my fungus case (or not?).
Two pictures oh one of the inner lens of my Meyer Primotar 135/3,5. I think this lens is about 40 years old.
It was hard to take this pictures.
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Not yet fungus but perhaps on the way... this is looks lens fluid went to inner element. Any kind of dust not good news inside in the lens if lens get enough humid air and dark (typical storage with cups) fungus can growing because dust is there for food. I have many Primotar some of them really dusty inside , but non of them get fungus! I have very clean Nikkor with fungus inside, I guess Japanese lenses have more times fungus than East German lenses have. Perhaps Japanese lenses are made more precisely air can't refresh inside and I saw a pretty idiot practice by Japanese their use glue to fix lenses to each other. _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
This is an excellent example of how fungus might not be visible from some angles. You really have to take a close look! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
In a separate dry box. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Even a whole colony of fungus might be barely visible if behind a well made multicoating.
When I bought the Distagon 1.4/35 at a used camera fair, I did not notice the fungus - took out, I thought the multicoating had some "leopard spot" perhaps due to uncautious cleaning, or maybe defektive coating. But then at accurate inspection I noticed that the spots were inside the lens not outside, so I realized it could be fungus. I turned on the car's lights (didn't have a torch with me, stupidly), and seen through the lens I could clearly see the fungus. Luckily I could get back and change the lens with another copy that the seller had available.
Attila a very wise guy always has with him the little torch light. Since then, I am also doing the same. I have bought 5 small torch lights and I keep them in various places: the car, the camera bags, my studio. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Stonefish
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Stonefish wrote:
Unfortunately, it is fungus. After I have read this topic, I think my J-9 lens has fungus. I thought fungus is always a grey veil. I have the lense from the rear side with a halogen spot lighting.
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