Ebay seller member446885 Keith Rock

[Attila]

described this as optically perfect

I returned the lens and then had to chase my refund through paypal We exchanged bad feedback first time I have ever done this I would advise you to avoid his auctions as he clearly has no idea about the optical condition of a lens
here is the bad feed back left for me.
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BEWARE SELLERS-LIES FROM WORST COMMS BUYER-BANNED FROM ALL MY AUCTIONS-AVOID!!!!


prick!
http://forum.mflenses.com/ebay-nasty-sellers-to-avoid-t2626.html
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Folders:Konishiroku Perl,Bessa RF: Skopar,Heliar,Bessa I: Vaskar,Color-Skopar,Bessa: Voigtar, Bessa II Color-Heliar
35mm rangefinderBessa L,Leica IIIb,Yashica Electro GN,GSN,Canonette QL 17
35mm SLRNikon FA,Yashica FR-1,Praktica VLC3,Praktica FX2,Exakta VarexIIb,IIa,Pentax MX
35mm SLRPraktica MTL3b,Praktica PLC,VLC,Zenit-3M,Zenit-E
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica: 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,200mm f3.5,40cm f4.5
Please visit Ebay shop
and my company site
http://webdesign-logo.com

[Jieffe]

[peterqd]

I've been waiting for several months for a nice-condition Chinon CE-3 Memotron to show up at an affordable price, they're not exactly plentiful. Then on Saturday I saw this one from Rocky :
Click here to see on Ebay

The price was only $1 at the time. I thought it was worth a small risk and I put a maximum bid of $40 on it, and it won! The camera arrived yesterday, nicely wrapped up in a sealed poly bag and well packed in a new box, and it's in absolutely mint, unused, condition! There was a label stuck over the battery compartment with adhesive tape saying "working 6.1.06", which had never been removed. I put in a couple of new batteries and it does indeed seem to be working fine. (First roll in progress).

And he combined shipping with a couple of lens caps. So in this case I have to report that his service was excellent.
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Lenses: M42 - CZJ 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 3.5/135 - Meyer/Pentacon 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 2.8/135, 4/200
Russian - J8, J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50-2, H44-2, H44m-4, Vega12b
Takumar 3.5/28, 2.0/35, 3.5/35, 1.4/50(x2), 1.8/55(x2), 1.9/85, 3.5/135 - Vivitar 2.8/28
K-mount : Pentax-M 2.8/28, 1.7/50 - Tamron zooms :SP28-80, SP35-80, SP60-300, 80-210
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP, SPII(x2), SPF, ESII, K2, ME Super, P30n - Chinon CE3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B, PLC2
Rangefinder: Zorki-4, Beauty Light-o-matic III Medium Format: Yashica-Mat 124G

[Attila]

Great! I have also nice experience with him, I suppose he is a volume seller and he don't care accurate description. So need a bit luck to purchase from him.
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Folders:Konishiroku Perl,Bessa RF: Skopar,Heliar,Bessa I: Vaskar,Color-Skopar,Bessa: Voigtar, Bessa II Color-Heliar
35mm rangefinderBessa L,Leica IIIb,Yashica Electro GN,GSN,Canonette QL 17
35mm SLRNikon FA,Yashica FR-1,Praktica VLC3,Praktica FX2,Exakta VarexIIb,IIa,Pentax MX
35mm SLRPraktica MTL3b,Praktica PLC,VLC,Zenit-3M,Zenit-E
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica: 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,200mm f3.5,40cm f4.5
Please visit Ebay shop
and my company site
http://webdesign-logo.com

[Xpres]

I've also had good and bad from him. I think he's happy if 90% of his punters don't complain and doesn't care about the rest that do.
Best avoided unless desperate I think.
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E1, SD14 and some other stuff!

[j.lukow]

I hate to say this but I'va had only one dealing with him and it was actually decent - It was a Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8. The shipping was also decently priced, so to quote others dealing with him can be the luck of the draw. His greatest problem is that he probably sells too much stuff so doesn't have the time to do the best assessment and because he can get away with it he doesn't care.

So with all of the input from this community, I'll take great care if I ever think to purchase from him - and I feel lucky.

Jim
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EMPLOYMENT: That which funds photography and woodworking.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super

Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF

[hacksawbob]

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=member446885&Dirn=Received+by I gave up waiting for all the negative feedback to download
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[Attila]

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Folders:Konishiroku Perl,Bessa RF: Skopar,Heliar,Bessa I: Vaskar,Color-Skopar,Bessa: Voigtar, Bessa II Color-Heliar
35mm rangefinderBessa L,Leica IIIb,Yashica Electro GN,GSN,Canonette QL 17
35mm SLRNikon FA,Yashica FR-1,Praktica VLC3,Praktica FX2,Exakta VarexIIb,IIa,Pentax MX
35mm SLRPraktica MTL3b,Praktica PLC,VLC,Zenit-3M,Zenit-E
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica: 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,200mm f3.5,40cm f4.5
Please visit Ebay shop
and my company site
http://webdesign-logo.com

[patrickh]

We have seen this guy on another thread as well - he is a very careless bulk seller who does not check his goods. If you get something decent from him it is luck. Try to return anything and he becomes evasive, lying and a really nasty operator. The recommendation from several people on this forum and elsewhere is to avoid him like the plague.


patrickh
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DSLR: Nikon D70 Nikon D200 Canon 40D
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, Nikkor 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 3004.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Arsat 50/1.4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Mamiya 5/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, Steinheil macro 135/4.5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8, 35/2.8, 135/2.8
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8

[hacksawbob]

Hopefully this thread will show on Google he plays Ebay the worst way, when a volume seller can sidestep the bad feedback due to his volume of sales Ebay has failed and it is up to sites like this to report the reality. I take it this section of the forum is open to general view Atilla?
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[Attila]

Sure it will show in Google for everybody.
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Folders:Konishiroku Perl,Bessa RF: Skopar,Heliar,Bessa I: Vaskar,Color-Skopar,Bessa: Voigtar, Bessa II Color-Heliar
35mm rangefinderBessa L,Leica IIIb,Yashica Electro GN,GSN,Canonette QL 17
35mm SLRNikon FA,Yashica FR-1,Praktica VLC3,Praktica FX2,Exakta VarexIIb,IIa,Pentax MX
35mm SLRPraktica MTL3b,Praktica PLC,VLC,Zenit-3M,Zenit-E
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica: 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,200mm f3.5,40cm f4.5
Please visit Ebay shop
and my company site
http://webdesign-logo.com

[patrickh]

I'm with Bob on this one - he really is an unpleasant piece of work, vindictive, lying and a cheat.


patrickh
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DSLR: Nikon D70 Nikon D200 Canon 40D
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, Nikkor 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 3004.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Arsat 50/1.4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Mamiya 5/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, Steinheil macro 135/4.5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8, 35/2.8, 135/2.8
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8

[peterqd]

[patrickh]

Seems his rep is catching up - he is now "rockycamera" with only 47 ratings as of today. Same old rocky though. You might be lucky, but don't expect anything if you get a lemon.


patrickh
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DSLR: Nikon D70 Nikon D200 Canon 40D
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, Nikkor 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 3004.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Arsat 50/1.4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Mamiya 5/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, Steinheil macro 135/4.5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8, 35/2.8, 135/2.8
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8

[lomomagix]

Aha! It's very interesting what you see when you search for someone whose dirt in Ebay is legendary!

I bought a Bronica GS-1 camera body bundled with a 110 macro lens, an AE prism finder and a 120 6x7 film back. I got it for what I think is a good price considering that it had an AE finder.

Anyway, the items arrived but the camera body was missing its battery chamber cover and a focusing screen. His description specifically said it was a "complete" camera, "ready to use" and "in working condition" and also "optically perfect."

At the time I bought these items, he was listing a whole lot of Bronica GS-1 cameras and accessories (probably liquidating a studio's old equipment). There were more than 8 bodies listed in about 2 weeks. In his other listings, he specifically noted if there were any broken or missing parts, especially battery chamber covers and focusing screens! The item that I bought did not mention any missing parts!

And so, I write this chap a message and he immediately acknowledged the possible mistake and said he was sending the missing items immediately. At that time, I again bought some items from him and the understanding was that he would include the items with the latest shipment. Well, the new items arrived and the missing parts were not there. I write him another message and he said he had already sent the missing parts on a separate package.

A lot of time had passed and the missing parts haven't arrived. After a slew of new messages, he says there might have been a problem with the post office and he said he will send a new set of the missing parts. Nothing arrived and he kept promising they were on the way. I was aware of the looming deadline for filing a dispute so I did file one accompanied by a cordial message to him that I am filing it just because the deadline was near and that I am taking his word that the items were on the way and that I would immediately close the dispute once I get the items.

All hell broke loose after the dispute and the toilet bowl of a mouth that he had immediately erupted. Filth was all over my inbox and I have never seen a dirtier man than he was. He immediately elevated the dispute into a claim and he was offering to give me a refund if I return all the items I bought. (Note: aside from the defective camera kit, there were two other lots that I bought from him and paid thru the same bill and sent thru the same shipment, thus it was a heavy lot and overseas at that) The idiot knew that I would have to spend a fortune to send the items to him (especially with a tracking number that Paypal required) and he would not pay for that return shipping, and I would not be refunded the original shipping charge "as per his listing policy." That meant that I would spend $70 plus to send the heavy package to him and would not be refunded the $63 that I paid for shipping originally. Thus, I would have had spent $133 and refunded $192 for missing parts that wouldn't cost $50! And the rascal wouldn't just give me a partial refund without returning the item. So much for Paypal protection! This guy would have to be crucified to pay for his sins!

My logical conclusions can only be these: he made a mistake of sending me another item listed at the same time as mine, and that one specifically indicated a missing battery chamber cover and focusing screen. He never cared to correct it (and spend some more on another shipment) because he knew he could get away with it by promising to send the items until the deadline for the dispute expires. A review of several months worth of negative feedbacks reveals that he had been doing the same thing over and over again! My fault, I only looked at several dozen recent reviews and failed to notice that the positives were actually from the same people over and over again (I wouldn't be surprised if these were his other accounts and were only fictitious sales to pump up his feedback history, never mind the token cost for listing as the items were only one cent or so items anyway).

Another theory is that he was making up for a bad move. The other two lots that I won at the same time as that camera were a 36mm extension tube and an 18mm extension tube, both for the GS-1, and I got them for like $12 or so each, literally a steal as no other member bid for them. The shipping was also cut in half because of the discount he was offering for combined items. He was probably so sore at the bad deal he got that he decided to remove my battery chamber cover and focusing screen so he can sell them and make up for his loss with the extension tubes. Besides, he can once again get away with it thru the same tactic. It is interesting to note that a few days after I made the purchase, he listed a battery chamber cover and a focusing screen for the GS-1. Of course, I haven't received my items yet at that time so I still haven't discovered these missing parts.

Lastly, one thing stands out in this story: why would he offer to give me a refund if I return all the items (and he was demanding that I return all three lots that I paid for at the same time for a refund, including the dead cheap extension tubes) if he really shipped the missing parts? He would have been confident that I would get them and that I would close the dispute. And, more importantly, didn't he say that he already shipped two sets of the replacement parts? Why would you issue a refund in that case?

Silly guy, the dirt in his mind have probably contaminated his mind as well. Mr. Keith Rock of 2 Highfield Road, West Moors, Ferndown, Dorset, BH22ONA, United Kingdom: when was the last time you had mouthwash?