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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1207 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
First image taken with the lens in the post above...
It's slightly motion blurred due to hand-held slow shutter speed.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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bp_reid
Joined: 06 Jan 2021 Posts: 57 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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bp_reid wrote:
Final piece in my FD jigsaw, with it's UWA companions. The 24/2 to the right of the shot is a lens I've wanted to own since the early 90's. Unfortunately it will be a shelf queen for a few more weeks as my FD bodies are in storage and I've no Mirrorless body to try it on at present... I have, at least been able to track down a BW-52c hood since the lens arrived.
Canon FD super wide lenses by bp reid, on Flickr |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
In my quest to get a normal to telephoto (50-200) lens, I had considered the Tamron 35-135mm f/3.5-4.5 (40A).
While 35mm for me is a significantly different mindset than 50-200, it is the 'next best' focal range for a zoom for me. But it is still not what I'm looking for. I suppose I prefer to tack it at the start of this lens than on the end of an ultra-wide though.
The easily adapted Adaptall-2 mount + Tamron 'quality' on this uncommon focal range led me to pick up this one. And I was waiting for this version as it's supposed to have slightly better sharpness than the earlier f/3.5-4.2 (22A) version.
The auction was for
Vivitar 28mm f2.8 MC Wide Angle (49mm filter thread)
OM -> M4/3 adapter
Tamron 35-135mm f/3.5-4.5 (40A)
Adaptall-2 FD adapter
so those other items can quickly cover this. I spotted a small dent in the front of the Tamron but hoping it was a minor bump.
The Tamron is at f4.3 by 80mm, which is a shame. I wish up to that was f3.5. Hoping some spherical aberration atleast softens bokeh. 6 Aperture blades and probably straight..
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bp_reid
Joined: 06 Jan 2021 Posts: 57 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:04 am Post subject: |
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bp_reid wrote:
In that context it’s a shame that the Sigma 50-200 APO has a problem with a fogging element. I had one which was not too badly degraded and it was actually very good, just a bit low in contrast. |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:00 am Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
bp_reid wrote: |
In that context it’s a shame that the Sigma 50-200 APO has a problem with a fogging element. I had one which was not too badly degraded and it was actually very good, just a bit low in contrast. |
Ah, that's a good heads up, sadly I saw one for £15 ages ago in good condition but turned it down. At the prices I've seen them for I keep considering the Canon L 50-200mm f3.5-4.5.
Really do wish there were more options here... |
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RokkorDoctor
Joined: 27 Nov 2021 Posts: 1424 Location: Kent, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:51 am Post subject: |
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RokkorDoctor wrote:
eggplant wrote: |
bp_reid wrote: |
In that context it’s a shame that the Sigma 50-200 APO has a problem with a fogging element. I had one which was not too badly degraded and it was actually very good, just a bit low in contrast. |
Ah, that's a good heads up, sadly I saw one for £15 ages ago in good condition but turned it down. At the prices I've seen them for I keep considering the Canon L 50-200mm f3.5-4.5.
Really do wish there were more options here... |
There is also the Minolta MD-III 50-135mm f/3.5 . A less well-known one in their line-up, but it is a reasonable performer, although the later MD 70-210 f/4 is optically better. MFD of 1.5m is a bit long.
If 75mm is short enough at the short-end (i.e. a long~ish "normal" FL), the Minolta MD 75-150 f/4 is also highly recommended. _________________ Mark
SONY A7S, A7RII + dust-sealed modded Novoflex/Fotodiox/Rayqual MD-NEX adapters
Minolta SR-1, SRT-101/303, XD7/XD11, XGM, X700
Bronica SQAi
Ricoh GX100
Minolta majority of all Rokkor SR/AR/MC/MD models made
Sigma 14mm/3.5 for SR mount
Tamron SP 60B 300mm/2.8 (Adaptall)
Samyang T-S 24mm/3.5 (Nikon mount, DIY converted to SR mount)
Schneider-Kreuznach PC-Super-Angulon 28mm/2.8 (SR mount)
Bronica PS 35/40/50/65/80/110/135/150/180/200/250mm |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote: |
eggplant wrote: |
bp_reid wrote: |
In that context it’s a shame that the Sigma 50-200 APO has a problem with a fogging element. I had one which was not too badly degraded and it was actually very good, just a bit low in contrast. |
Ah, that's a good heads up, sadly I saw one for £15 ages ago in good condition but turned it down. At the prices I've seen them for I keep considering the Canon L 50-200mm f3.5-4.5.
Really do wish there were more options here... |
There is also the Minolta MD-III 50-135mm f/3.5 . A less well-known one in their line-up, but it is a reasonable performer, although the later MD 70-210 f/4 is optically better. MFD of 1.5m is a bit long.
If 75mm is short enough at the short-end (i.e. a long~ish "normal" FL), the Minolta MD 75-150 f/4 is also highly recommended. |
Nah, 75, 70 or even 60mm still not wide enough.
I did see the MD 50-135mm f/3.5 as a real candidate, but won't attach to my Metabones EF speedbooster. Same goes for the FD 50-135mm f3.5.
That leaves a Nikon F option, which is abit cheaper than the L/non-L EF 50-200mm, but still £35-50.
I might consider looking for the Tokina 50-250mm f4-5.6, which can be found sufficiently cheap, f4 is okay at 50mm. But I might just take the time looking for one of those and find the Canon instead...
As I have a truckload of wide converters, it might be possible to stick a 0.7x one on a 70-200 zoom, to get to 50mm, hopefully using a sharp center area as most of these are designed to deliver wider angles like 28-35mm. But alot of those add weight and bulk. We shall see... |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
There is also the RMC Tokina 50-200mm 1:3.5-4.5 Decent and nice for close up work: https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157704764611252
Much nicer is the SMC Pentax 45-125mm F4 https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157707427370294 there is also a Takumar version. _________________ pentaxian |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
Hmm yes I did see that Tokina pop up in searches, seems uncommon even in the literature I have. Wonder when it was being made, not a Tokina rebadge..
Actually forgot about the Pentax, 125mm isn't as tele but constant F4 and decent bokeh seemingly throughout is tempting. Your(?) Flickr page is good for this.
It would be interesting to compare that Pentax 45-125mm f4 with the Tamron 40A 35-135mm 3.5-4.5, though. Maybe you have experiences you could attest to?
I will probably do a comparison test between the Tamron 40A and a Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8-4 + Sony wide converter (VCL-DH0774 0.75x) at 50mm... |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Tokina had a number of different options then:
I haven't shot with the 40A enough yet for a Comparison with the Pentax, but my impression is that the Pentax images look nicer somehow. The Tamron probably has sharper corners, being a newer design. _________________ pentaxian |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
Tokina had a number of different options then:
I haven't shot with the 40A enough yet for a Comparison with the Pentax, but my impression is that the Pentax images look nicer somehow. The Tamron probably has sharper corners, being a newer design. |
Oh, lol, I literally own this booklet. There were so many 80-200 lenses I forgot there was a 50-200 in there. Thanks anyway.
Scans of that coming soon... |
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 774 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
I don't think I can say enough good things about this one. Wonderful. |
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Alun Thomas
Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 660 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
#1
#2
I received this Enna Sockel Ultra Lithagon 28mm F/3.5 for Exakta mount, mainly purchased to get the attached Exakta adapter. This lens (well actually the earlier, fixed mount version) is said to be the second 28mm lens for SLR released after the Angenieux lens. This one wasn't quite as sharp as the Ultra Sandmar version I already received, but is still surprisingly good for an early retrofocus lens. The Sandmar was outstanding IMO. Another interesting aspect of this early semi-automatic interchangeable focussing mount, is the close focus abilities you get with wide angle lenses. I gave it a try, and the closest I could focus was ~18cm from the film plane, about 8cm from the front element. |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:20 am Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
Just got the Tamron 40A and Vivitar 28mm today... both in actually very nice condition. Vivitar looks and feels barely used.
Strangely at full extension with the Tamron I see some 'shredded rubber' like you get on degraded Sigma Zen lenses. But it is still in good nick.
The Tamron's macro collar hardly turns to go into the mode, which is nice. Only at 35mm so still not like continuous focusing, but ahead of other macro settings on zoom lenses.
I'm going to report back with how the aperture changes across the zoom range. Useful to know in general, but also as I wanted sufficient shallow DOF from 50-80mm. Doesn't everyone want to know that in their zoom lens? |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:51 am Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
Well, darn, it's supposed to turn a lot more- look where the macro magnification markings are. I have no idea why it won't turn- I can move the collar at any time, the button doesn't unlock anything.
I know there's a small dent on the front but would it be enough to jam up the helicoid? |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The macro button unlocks a second helicoid pushing the entire barrel upwards, you can see it extend above the aperture ring _________________ pentaxian |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020 Posts: 517
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
The macro button unlocks a second helicoid pushing the entire barrel upwards, you can see it extend above the aperture ring |
I know- but it will not extend beyond this point, no matter how hard I try:
The button depressing doesn't actually do anything, nor does it ever 'lock' into place. It can go back to infinity but I can rotate the sleeve at any time. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
It should turn all the way to the 1:4 mark _________________ pentaxian |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3208 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
KEO wrote: |
I don't think I can say enough good things about this one. Wonderful. |
Don’t make me jealous! _________________ For Sale:
Minolta MD 24mm f/2.8
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 774 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
KEO wrote: |
I don't think I can say enough good things about this one. Wonderful. |
Don’t make me jealous! |
But you should be jealous!
Honestly, this lens is phenomenal. It was clearly designed from the ground up for portraits, and it's the best I've used for that application so far. The "Defocus Image Control" actually works, too - within limits - and it's fun to play around with.
I'm talking about the 105mm F/2 DC Nikkor, for anyone who missed it. |
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Paulius
Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Paulius wrote:
Yesterday on flea market, the M-ROKKOR 90mm/f4, almost mint condition, except the hood is over dry.
This lens made by Leitz for Minolta rangefinder in late 70-s, early 80-s.
Cost me $20.-
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3208 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:29 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
KEO wrote: |
caspert79 wrote: |
KEO wrote: |
I don't think I can say enough good things about this one. Wonderful. |
Don’t make me jealous! |
But you should be jealous!
Honestly, this lens is phenomenal. It was clearly designed from the ground up for portraits, and it's the best I've used for that application so far. The "Defocus Image Control" actually works, too - within limits - and it's fun to play around with.
I'm talking about the 105mm F/2 DC Nikkor, for anyone who missed it. |
Tell me, is this lens pleasing to work with in MF mode? _________________ For Sale:
Minolta MD 24mm f/2.8
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 774 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
Tell me, is this lens pleasing to work with in MF mode? |
Yes, it works very well in manual mode. The focus ring is very nice and it uses internal, rear element focusing. The aperture ring is also very nice and it has a little switch that locks it at f/16. You can see the switch in the picture right above the f/2 mark. The lens itself has no internal autofocus motor, since it used the Nikon camera's autofocus drive.
Even though the D-series Nikkors are lightweight and not as rugged as the Ai-S Nikkors, the build quality is still excellent. |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Most recently... the Tamron SP 60-300 to replace a pair of others that were lightly fungused - bonus, the lens came with a PK/A mount.
Then got a SP 500/8 mirror, which also came with a PK/A mount.
Last week, arrived an SP 28-135, which sported a Nikon AI mount, quite happily as that was going to go on my recently acquired FE Nikon (and Nikkormat FTn). _________________ Dave - Moderator
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16656 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:33 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
WOW, 6.000 replies - quite record this is!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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