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pepperberry farm
Joined: 02 Jan 2017 Posts: 52
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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pepperberry farm wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
Can you post pictures of the lens please, I'm intrigued |
Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2:
Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr
Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr
Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr
and next to the Minolta MC Rokkor-PF 55mm f1.4 (on the right):
Minolta 58/1.2 vs 58/1.4 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr |
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Vintage_Photographer
Joined: 10 Jun 2024 Posts: 84
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
Just added a Minolta 75-200 f4.5 to the collection.
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2. It's huge. Especially compared to the Tokina 70-210 it's replacing. The Tokina is very compact - not far off the size of the MD III 35-70 whereas the 75-200 Minolta is near double the length. |
Wait until you get the Minolta MD 8/100-500mm!
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One thing I'm puzzled by though. I keep seeing references to the Minolta 'Beer Can' sometimes referring to the 75-200 f4.5, sometimes to the 70-200 f4 and sometimes to the AF version of the 70-200 f4. Which one is it?. |
The term "beercan" was applied to the Minolta AF 4/70-210mm around 2004 when the first real digital SLR from Minolta hit the market and everyone was struggling to get old MinAF glass. Not much later the term "big beercan" was created for the first-gen MinAF 4.5-5.6/75-300mm (a very good zoom for its time, and very expensive when new).
That said, the Minolta MD 4/70-210mm shares the same [12/9] optical construction with the MinAF 4/70-210. The (earlier) MD 4.5/75-200 has a more complicated - but not better! - [15/11] construction.
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That 100-500 is a beast!
Here's what I mean about the MD 75-200 vs the Tokina 70-210
From the left:
MD 100-300 f5.6, MD 75-200 f4 5, Tokina 70-210 f4-5.6, ND III 35-70 f3.5
The Tokina is very compact for its focal length.
_________________ Current gear list:
Mamiya 645 TL Pro with 80mm and 110mm Sekor C, Rolleiflex SL35 with Rollei HFT 50mm/1.8, Rolleinar 135/2.8, 200/3.5, Pentacon 28/2.8 and Horizont 35/2.8, Minolta SRT100X, Rokkor 35-70mm f/3.5, Rokkor 100-300mm f/5.6.
Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR. |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 902
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
Just added a Minolta 75-200 f4.5 to the collection.
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2. It's huge. Especially compared to the Tokina 70-210 it's replacing. The Tokina is very compact - not far off the size of the MD III 35-70 whereas the 75-200 Minolta is near double the length. |
Wait until you get the Minolta MD 8/100-500mm!
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
One thing I'm puzzled by though. I keep seeing references to the Minolta 'Beer Can' sometimes referring to the 75-200 f4.5, sometimes to the 70-200 f4 and sometimes to the AF version of the 70-200 f4. Which one is it?. |
The term "beercan" was applied to the Minolta AF 4/70-210mm around 2004 when the first real digital SLR from Minolta hit the market and everyone was struggling to get old MinAF glass. Not much later the term "big beercan" was created for the first-gen MinAF 4.5-5.6/75-300mm (a very good zoom for its time, and very expensive when new).
That said, the Minolta MD 4/70-210mm shares the same [12/9] optical construction with the MinAF 4/70-210. The (earlier) MD 4.5/75-200 has a more complicated - but not better! - [15/11] construction.
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That 100-500 is a beast!
Here's what I mean about the MD 75-200 vs the Tokina 70-210
From the left:
MD 100-300 f5.6, MD 75-200 f4 5, Tokina 70-210 f4-5.6, ND III 35-70 f3.5
The Tokina is very compact for its focal length.
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These Tokina should be fabulous lenses since they result from fine computations. But I never succeeded buying a Tokina zoom without decentered elements resulting in rotating tilt planes that infuriated me since sharpness was excellent where you could exactly focus the lens. How was yours? _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4101 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
These Tokina should be fabulous lenses since they result from fine computations. But I never succeeded buying a Tokina zoom without decentered elements |
The Minolta MD 3.5-4.5/35-105mm (I) obviously is a clone of the corresponding Tokina RMC 3.5-4.3 (sic) / 35-105mm. I have several samples of the Tokina as well as of the Minolta. The Minolta siblings consistently do perform better ... Well - quality control does matter, especially with zoom lenses! While the optical computation for both lenses may be the same, its mechanical construction, some materials and the entire quality control obviously are differing ...
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Vintage_Photographer
Joined: 10 Jun 2024 Posts: 84
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Vintage_Photographer wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
Just added a Minolta 75-200 f4.5 to the collection.
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2. It's huge. Especially compared to the Tokina 70-210 it's replacing. The Tokina is very compact - not far off the size of the MD III 35-70 whereas the 75-200 Minolta is near double the length. |
Wait until you get the Minolta MD 8/100-500mm!
Vintage_Photographer wrote: |
One thing I'm puzzled by though. I keep seeing references to the Minolta 'Beer Can' sometimes referring to the 75-200 f4.5, sometimes to the 70-200 f4 and sometimes to the AF version of the 70-200 f4. Which one is it?. |
The term "beercan" was applied to the Minolta AF 4/70-210mm around 2004 when the first real digital SLR from Minolta hit the market and everyone was struggling to get old MinAF glass. Not much later the term "big beercan" was created for the first-gen MinAF 4.5-5.6/75-300mm (a very good zoom for its time, and very expensive when new).
That said, the Minolta MD 4/70-210mm shares the same [12/9] optical construction with the MinAF 4/70-210. The (earlier) MD 4.5/75-200 has a more complicated - but not better! - [15/11] construction.
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That 100-500 is a beast!
Here's what I mean about the MD 75-200 vs the Tokina 70-210
From the left:
MD 100-300 f5.6, MD 75-200 f4 5, Tokina 70-210 f4-5.6, ND III 35-70 f3.5
The Tokina is very compact for its focal length.
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These Tokina should be fabulous lenses since they result from fine computations. But I never succeeded buying a Tokina zoom without decentered elements resulting in rotating tilt planes that infuriated me since sharpness was excellent where you could exactly focus the lens. How was yours? |
Sharpness is 'ok' but not a patch on the Minolta from a quick test. Let me have a play in the morning and see how it looks with a bit more testing. _________________ Current gear list:
Mamiya 645 TL Pro with 80mm and 110mm Sekor C, Rolleiflex SL35 with Rollei HFT 50mm/1.8, Rolleinar 135/2.8, 200/3.5, Pentacon 28/2.8 and Horizont 35/2.8, Minolta SRT100X, Rokkor 35-70mm f/3.5, Rokkor 100-300mm f/5.6.
Fuji X-E2 and X-T4 with Fuji 18-55 AF, 18-135 AF, TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF, 7.5/2 Fisheye, 35/1.4, 7Artisans 18/6.3, Samyang 12mm/2 AF, Tamron SP90 (on Nikon adapter), Ilford Sportsman, Zeiss IKon Contina II and Zeiss Ikoflex 1 TLR. |
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mouks
Joined: 22 Jun 2024 Posts: 35 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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mouks wrote:
pepperberry farm wrote: |
Lloydy wrote: |
Can you post pictures of the lens please, I'm intrigued |
Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2:
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I have the same version and I love it |
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mouks
Joined: 22 Jun 2024 Posts: 35 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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mouks wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
mouks wrote: |
MC Zoom Rokkor 40-80mm f/2.8.
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At 170 CHF in very good condition, I had to get it. |
On eof the few Minolta lenses for the SR bayonet I don't own . I had the opportunity to play with one, a few years ago, and I was pretty surprised about its performance - given that it's a mid-range f2.8 zoom from the mid 1970s!
Certainly a good price, and a nice "new" tool ... !
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Yes, the price was right considering how expensive they usually are. By the way, the same seller also had one of these giant 100-500mm f/8 for sale a few weeks ago, I'm ashamed I forgot to bid as it sold for dirt cheap, it should be worth these 30 CHF in scrap metal alone! https://www.ricardo.ch/fr/a/minolta-zoom-rokkor-100-500mm-objektiv-mit-tasche-1270094924/
I took this 40-80/2.8 out today but there was only a few minutes of sunlight left, days are getting short!
I thought this would be a good test for CA and there's not as much as I would have expected. Shot wide open at 80mm. If you zoom on the parts that are in focus like the bottom of the left leaf, it also looks pretty sharp. The bokeh is on the busy side but I like it.
I heard a plane fly over so I shot it wide open to see if the lens is sharp enough to identify it. And indeed, that was clearly a good old Pilatus PC-6. While I'm not able to read its registration number, looking at the paint, there's no doubt it's this one.
https://www.jetphotos.com/registration/HB-FKT
it looks like it's limited by my 24MP sensor actually
I can't wait to shoot more with it, so far I'm impressed! |
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DrBB
Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 119 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
Isco-Göttingen Westagon (Edixa Reflex) 50mm f2 (M42)
Steinheil München Cassar 45mm f2.8 (Braun M39) |
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 984 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
1955 LTM Canon 1.5/50mm (T4)
∅40mm - 13 Blades - MFD 100cm _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 3.5/25, 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
@we3fotography
@7plus_pictures
@_whats.that.car_ |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3247 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:45 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Mir wrote: |
1955 LTM Canon 1.5/50mm (T4)
∅40mm - 13 Blades - MFD 100cm |
Interesting. Please post some pictures later! _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4101 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Defective Petri FTE with Petri EE 2.8/35mm, 1.7/55mm and 4/200mm (seller Pic below). For CHF 10.--
And a Soligor 4.5/250mm, one of about half a dozen variants ... For CHF 5.--. Sadly I missed a recent Soligor 2.8/25mm which finally went fro CHF 5.-- as well ...
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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pepperberry farm
Joined: 02 Jan 2017 Posts: 52
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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pepperberry farm wrote:
arrived this week:
Pentax SMC M 50mm f4 Macro
Pentax SMC M 100mm f4 Macro
Pentax SMC M 28mm f2.8
Pentax SMC A 35-105mm f3.5
Pentax DA 70 Limited
Pentax DA 18-55mm
and a GR III |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4101 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
A Olympus OM1 along with the Zuiko OM 4/200mm:
A like-new Minolta SR-T 100 with an equally beautiful MC Rokkor 2/50mm:
Another Hexanon AR 2.5/135mm (like new as well, and for free):
And finally not a lens, but a lens hood with corresponding lens leaflet (Canon LTM lenses including lens sections of all Canon LTM lenses available at that time):
A few more images of "new" cameras will be published soon in the "SHOW US YOUR CAMERAS!" thread in the "Film SLR / TLR Cameras" section of MFlenses.com
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 902
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
[quote="pepperberry farm"]
How much did you pay for the choco biscuits? Which auction site? _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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DrBB
Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 119 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
München Hexatar 45mm f2.8 (M42) with Pentacon Hexacon camera
Petri C.C 135mm f3.8 EE Auto (Petri BR) |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11097 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
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! (interested in your results with 1:1!) _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4101 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
[quote="visualopsins"]
stevemark wrote: |
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
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At infinity: No problem, I'll do that.
At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor.
Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens
would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus
the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable
work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11097 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
[quote="stevemark"]
visualopsins wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
! (interested in your results with 1:1!) |
At infinity: No problem, I'll do that.
At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor. Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??
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Point well taken! Sorry, no, I can't think of any easy way (now) to maintain parallelism at close distance besides optical bench and frame-filling target, like the Big Boys do. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Ernst Dinkla
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Ernst Dinkla wrote:
[quote="stevemark"]
visualopsins wrote: |
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Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
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At infinity: No problem, I'll do that.
At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor. Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??
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Whenever I sell my premises the next owner will wonder what that small round mirror cemented in the center of a wall was meant for. He might observe a faint 10 meter long marking line on the pavement running perpendiculary from the center of that wall as well. Stacked fence parts cover up that mirror right now but it must be about 15 years ago I made that instrument. _________________ Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst
http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
March 2017 update, 750+ inkjet media white spectral plots |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4101 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor.
Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens
would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus
the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable
work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??
S |
Just checked the local ebay equivalent and found that there's an optical bank abvailable, used, in the direct neighbourhood .
Price wouldn't be prohibitive, but where to place it ...? Well, Switzerland is really a wonderland. Who would have expected
such a precision tool to appear, used and for a fair price, somewhere on the countryside in central Switzerland?!? Not me ...
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Ouwesok
Joined: 01 Jul 2014 Posts: 61 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ouwesok wrote:
Today at the Hilversum photo fair:
- Soligor 5.6-8/120-600mm built by Kobori
- Sigma APO 5.6/180mm macro
- Vivitar Series1 2.5/105mm macro built by Kiron
sorry, i have no pictures of them yet
Both the macro's are like new. The big Soligor zoom does look a bit aged but feels like new.
Now hoping for better circumstances to give these lenses a first time out. _________________ Formerly known as toeteraar |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11097 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Ouwesok wrote: |
Today at the Hilversum photo fair:
- Soligor 5.6-8/120-600mm built by Kobori
- Sigma APO 5.6/180mm macro
- Vivitar Series1 2.5/105mm macro built by Kiron
sorry, i have no pictures of them yet
Both the macro's are like new. The big Soligor zoom does look a bit aged but feels like new.
Now hoping for better circumstances to give these lenses a first time out. |
Nice stuff! Congrats! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11097 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor.
Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens
would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus
the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable
work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??
S |
Just checked the local ebay equivalent and found that there's an optical bank abvailable, used, in the direct neighbourhood .
Price wouldn't be prohibitive, but where to place it ...? Well, Switzerland is really a wonderland. Who would have expected
such a precision tool to appear, used and for a fair price, somewhere on the countryside in central Switzerland?!? Not me ...
S |
WOW!!! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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DrBB
Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 119 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
DrBB wrote: |
Isco-Göttingen Westagon (Edixa Reflex) 50mm f2 (M42)
Steinheil München Cassar 45mm f2.8 (Braun M39) |
Arrived today, near-perfect condition except very stiff helicoids
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3247 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
SMC Pentax 45-125mm f/4.
I like the images I’ve seen of this lens, and I think it’s focal range is actually quite practical. This lens + 1 wide angle of choice is all I need on most of my trips. _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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