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ChromaticAberration
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What I mean is that at those focal lengths they stop being a mainstream lens, that's all. Of course they are useful to somebody that is why they were designed and produced in the first place.
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ilguercio
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ilguercio wrote:
Even a macro lens isn't useful for me, since i don't shoot macros (yet) but if i could have one for 20 euros i'd buy it.
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fermy
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I'm sure the 600 f/4 is in a different league as well but i wouldn't say it isn't useful to somebody.
It might be not that useful for you but i think the 1200-1700 would be a dream at 2200€ for some nature shooter.
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For some, yes, but for a minority. For me the real photographic value test is this. Let's imagine this lens is widely available for 2200€ in stores today. Would I buy it? I wouldn't. It's simply too much hassle. Even if I needed a powerful tripod only tele, I would opt for something under 5 kilos, so that I have a realistic chance to take it places. This lens requires a sherpa in addition to tripod. Would you buy it for 2200?
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Esox lucius
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Esox lucius wrote:
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| This lens requires a sherpa in addition to tripod. Would you buy it for 2200? |
Hell yes, I see endless possibilities which outweigh the limitations of that lens.
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Laurence
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Laurence wrote:
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| What I mean is that at those focal lengths they stop being a mainstream lens, that's all. Of course they are useful to somebody that is why they were designed and produced in the first place. |
I could have used that lens nicely in a recent hike - the focal length would keep me distant enough from the Black Bears
so that both the bears and myself could be comfortable. That's a problem for me with bears - I really don't like to push
the boundaries of getting too close to them, yet it makes such a better shot if you can bring them in to fill the frame and
more. So anyway - for images of animals - this would be one cracklin' lens! I would even haul it along, knowing that the
bears would be around.
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Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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ChromaticAberration
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I could have used that lens nicely in a recent hike - the focal length would keep me distant enough from the Black Bears so that both the bears and myself could be comfortable. That's a problem for me with bears - I really don't like to push
the boundaries of getting too close to them, yet it makes such a better shot if you can bring them in to fill the frame and
more. So anyway - for images of animals - this would be one cracklin' lens! I would even haul it along, knowing that the
bears would be around. |
Come on, you would be eaten by a furious bear if you had to carry that lens weight (+ suitable tripod) around! 
Also, would it be that much useful? I mean, at that focal length the available breathing space must be super small, if your subject sneezes you have to recompose the shot. Imagine if he takes a step or two and you need to reposition your bazooka of a lens!
It is a really interesting piece of photographic history, no one can take that from the current owner of course but too specific for 99% of users. When you get to the point where a car is more suitable than a simple bag for carrying a lens... It's like I said, a different league.
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Laurence
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Laurence wrote:
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| Laurence wrote: |
I could have used that lens nicely in a recent hike - the focal length would keep me distant enough from the Black Bears so that both the bears and myself could be comfortable. That's a problem for me with bears - I really don't like to push
the boundaries of getting too close to them, yet it makes such a better shot if you can bring them in to fill the frame and
more. So anyway - for images of animals - this would be one cracklin' lens! I would even haul it along, knowing that the
bears would be around. |
Come on, you would be eaten by a furious bear if you had to carry that lens weight (+ suitable tripod) around!
Also, would it be that much useful? I mean, at that focal length the available breathing space must be super small, if your subject sneezes you have to recompose the shot. Imagine if he takes a step or two and you need to reposition your bazooka of a lens!
It is a really interesting piece of photographic history, no one can take that from the current owner of course but too specific for 99% of users. When you get to the point where a car is more suitable than a simple bag for carrying a lens... It's like I said, a different league. |
Okay, okay...I agree with you! Your points are well taken. Guess I was just living a dream.  Thinking about it (this time)
I think a 300~400 lens would be very appropriate. And, if on a tripod I MIGHT get by with a 2X doubler if needed. Depends on
the degradation of quality, of course.
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Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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fermy
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Guess I was just living a dream.
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That was hungry bear's dream...Mmmm tasty, slow food with a tripod.
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Laurence
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Laurence wrote:
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| Laurence wrote: |
Guess I was just living a dream.
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That was hungry bear's dream...Mmmm tasty, slow food with a tripod. |
Mr. Bear better watch out for the steel rod in my arm when he chomps down. 
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Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
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Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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kryss wrote:
Looking for long time for Canon EX complete set, on local site kiji .ca I obtained complete set with the 35mm,50mm,95mm and 125mm c/w hoods all caps,cases & Canon D flash in a like new leather case which holds all equipment,the 35,95 &125 were never mounted and set is in like new and I got it for $80 Can. complete set( not in as good condition as mine) for sale on Ebay UK for 280 GP pounds + shipping,so I an quite happy. |
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dok
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dok wrote:
Just got a Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2 T 1Q for 7€
While wide open it is clearly sharper than my Helios 44-2, the color rendition is a bit deceiving. Colors are pretty washed-out.
EDIT : actually, after performing some tests, it is NOT sharper at all W.O. |
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inombrable
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inombrable wrote:
Helios 44-2 double 00 serial number in as new condition 2.00 GBP
Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35 2.4 mint condition 15.00 GBP
Vivitar series 1 24-70 K mount as new in original leather box (as new also) with manual 10.00 GBP
I am quite happy using them!! |
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
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Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35 2.4 mint condition 15.00 GBP
Vivitar series 1 24-70 K mount as new in original leather box (as new also) with manual 10.00 GBP |
Wow, congrats!! |
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bob955i
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bob955i wrote:
Not recent but...
Post-war chromed brass Meyer Trioplan 2.8/100 Exakta mount in near mint condition for 50GBP.
Meyer Orestor 2.8/100 M42 mount in near mint condition with snappy oil-free aperture for 20GBP.
Meyer Orestor 2.8/135 M42 mount boxed and in near mint condition for 30GBP.
Zeiss Flektogon 2.4/35 M42 mount x 2 in mint condition for 45GBP each.
Zeiss Sonnar 3.5/135 zebra M42 mount x 2 in excellent condition for 25GBP each.
Zeiss Distagon 2.8/25 MM C/Y mount in mint condition for 120GBP.
Not sure if this was exactly a bargain but also a Zeiss Sonnar 2.8/180 zebra P6 mount with matching zebra P6-M42 adapter, boxed and in near mint condition with hood and caps for 160GBP. |
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inombrable
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inombrable wrote:
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Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35 2.4 mint condition 15.00 GBP
Vivitar series 1 24-70 K mount as new in original leather box (as new also) with manual 10.00 GBP |
Wow, congrats!! |
Yes my eyes were exactly like that too !!! |
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buggz wrote:
Voigtlander Portrait Euryscop III F4.5 No.4 10.5"
$720.00, a good deal to me.
Hope to use it soon w/ my 4x5 Sinar f2. |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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Voigtlander Portrait Euryscop III F4.5 No.4 10.5"
$720.00, a good deal to me.
Hope to use it soon w/ my 4x5 Sinar f2. |
What is average price ?
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buggz
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buggz wrote:
Not exactly certain, but the evilbay has them somewhere in $1800.00 to $2000.00
This one is in great condition too, I couldn't pass it up.
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Voigtlander Portrait Euryscop III F4.5 No.4 10.5"
$720.00, a good deal to me.
Hope to use it soon w/ my 4x5 Sinar f2. |
What is average price ? |
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
So you had luck really, look forward your shoots, congrats!
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
One of the best "bargains" I have ever found was one of my bags: the Kalahari K-12.
It was not cheap (paid still € 33,- but instead of € 79,-) but it's an absolutely amazing bag!
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TijmenDal wrote:
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Not recent but...
Post-war chromed brass Meyer Trioplan 2.8/100 Exakta mount in near mint condition for 50GBP.
Meyer Orestor 2.8/100 M42 mount in near mint condition with snappy oil-free aperture for 20GBP.
Meyer Orestor 2.8/135 M42 mount boxed and in near mint condition for 30GBP.
Zeiss Flektogon 2.4/35 M42 mount x 2 in mint condition for 45GBP each.
Zeiss Sonnar 3.5/135 zebra M42 mount x 2 in excellent condition for 25GBP each.
Zeiss Distagon 2.8/25 MM C/Y mount in mint condition for 120GBP.
Not sure if this was exactly a bargain but also a Zeiss Sonnar 2.8/180 zebra P6 mount with matching zebra P6-M42 adapter, boxed and in near mint condition with hood and caps for 160GBP. |
Wow! Where do you shop? Flea market?
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AlunH
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AlunH wrote:
... I had to share my good fortune with someone!
I just picked up a bag of the following bits for £50. Bought because there was a (cosmetically challenged) CZJ Flektogon 35 included.
- Zenit E (Moshva 80 version)
- Praktica LTL3
- Pentax MG
- SMC Pentax M 1:2 50mm
- Helios 44-2
- Vivitar 28 -70mm 1:3.5 - 4.8 MC Zoom
- Paragon 300mm f5.6
- Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm 2.4 !
- Zeiss Jena Pancolar Auto 1.8/80 MC !!!
The Flek looks as if it has been dropped. It rattles - a kind of clunky thud - like a set of elements might be lose? I will open it up this weekend and tighten it up. A couple of dings on the front thread means it wont be having any filters on it unless I can find a way of straightening them out (Any suggestions are welcome) But, a few test shots have shown me why they are so highly regarded. GORGEOUS colours and very sharp.
I was not aware of the the Pancolar 80 and bought this lot just for the Flektogon. So imagine my surprise when I shoved this on the front of my 500D! It's in mint condition. No cleaning marks, no paint rubs, no haze or fungus, absolutely no oil or dust visible inside and a buttery smooth focus ring. S/N is in the very low four figures (under 1500) so I am amazed at it's condition.
Ooh, I almost forgot. There was also two miranda flash guns and a Zeiss IKOPHOT lightmeter in there too!
And its not even Christmas!!
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Lena
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Wow, where do you find all those treasures
Are there any flea markets in Italy in big cities? What are they called in Italian? |
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Aanything
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Aanything wrote:
I found some good deals at San donato market, next to Milan, on Sundays, but not all Sundays.
We call them generically "mercatini" (little markets), but I always have some difficulties in gathering info about them.
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