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Sony A7r, gamechanger, to be announced Wed
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A local photographer tried 15mm and 21mm RF lens on both camera. He said that the red shift problem is more prominent on the A7R.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
A local photographer tried 15mm and 21mm RF lens on both camera. He said that the red shift problem is more prominent on the A7R.

https://www.facebook.com/L39.Camera


Crap! In the German Sony forum they said it should be the opposite. I have preordered the A7r especially as I'm planning to use it with RF lenses, so lets hope that it won't have issues like NEX-7

Thx for sharing!


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
uhoh7 wrote:

...Some of the ultra-wide and very wides do vignette, so be aware of this. There is no software correction for this, because we're mixing and matching. With other systems where the lens and camera are from the same company there's a lot of magic that can be done in firmware.

Well, both Sony A7 and A7r will a such correction feature (like NEX-6, 5R,... already have):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWe_ePAHSfk
Costs 10€ extra though to download this app Laughing and of course you have to change profile manually in camera when swapping manual lenses if you don't buy such an ultra expensive Leica M adapter which offers a 6 bit code reading feature.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I m also concern about edge sharpness and rending.

No all wide lenses can fit in canon ff at infinity. Especially useful with tilt lcd when using a wide lens and close range.

One more thing:
The spec is usb2. As A7r has almost same file size as d800 (45-50Mbytes per raw photo) the transfer rate can take time.
usb3 has 50-70Mbytes/sec, but on usb2 it is far slower.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This has surely been the hottest gear news for a long time, as the discussions in all the internet forums show.
But whereas I jumped on the bandwagon when they marketed the NEX-7 (and was one of the first customers in Germany to have one), the A7 does not stir anything in me.
Strangely enough, I cannot feel any urge to buy it. Shocked


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmmm... the more I look at it, the more I tend to like the design... interesting blend of clean, modern lines with just a bit of (carefully concealed) retro touch...


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
SVP wrote:
Hmmm... the more I look at it, the more I tend to like the design... interesting blend of clean, modern lines with just a bit of (carefully concealed) retro touch...


I agree Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
sharp edges will have paint loss, bump marks, but i like it with the grip.
it looks fragile, and might not be as durable.

I was excited the day it came out, but now calm down a bit, and still want one.
don't think it can replace canon nor nikon ff, but any lust for a leica m9 is completely gone...
even a pentax ff body...


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Aanything wrote:
Well, guys, were you in trouble about what to give me as christmas gift, here's a hint.
I'd be happy enough with the a7.


same here Laughing


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've just talked to a local camera dealer.
The Sony A7r will be locally available 18.11.2013 for 2099.-€ and one copy is already reserved for me



PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm thinking that this camera makes the market more "complete" with better diversity. People will still love their m43, APS-C mirrorless and DSLR's. This camera is just filling a hole, which is good.

And I've been sittin in that hole for a while hoping for this to happen Wink


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ForenSeil wrote:
I've just talked to a local camera dealer.
The Sony A7r will be locally available 18.11.2013 for 2099.-€ and one copy is already reserved for me



grats! Laughing


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ForenSeil wrote:
I've just talked to a local camera dealer.
The Sony A7r will be locally available 18.11.2013 for 2099.-€ and one copy is already reserved for me



That soon?
At Photo Dose?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ForenSeil wrote:
I've just talked to a local camera dealer.
The Sony A7r will be locally available 18.11.2013 for 2099.-€ and one copy is already reserved for me

I really hope mine will show up that soon too Very Happy
The price in Norway is almost 2300-€ Sad


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
when nex7 came out, the flood came shortly later.
There are people re-selling their nex7 with 300usd profit.

One of my friend was so lucky to get the last one of 5 first that served as store display.
Another had to pay 200usd extra to buy from EU and ship to US...


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think Sony's warranty is valid for Europe.
Maybe you could buy one in Germany ?
Why don't you make a group buy with some rebate ?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hoanpham wrote:
when nex7 came out, the flood came shortly later.
There are people re-selling their nex7 with 300usd profit.

One of my friend was so lucky to get the last one of 5 first that served as store display.
Another had to pay 200usd extra to buy from EU and ship to US...


But you pay for having it early.. even if you're not paying a premium just to be fashionable, looking at CPB Sony bodies seem to reliably drop 30% on the street price over the first 6 months. I can't see this model being any different. For me, that makes the difference between the A7 and the A7r. And lets me see the effect on the value of used 5Dii and 6D bodies (as alternatives) - as well as time to sell some gear I'm not using or wouldn't be using if I has the Sony (anyone want an RB67 Pro S set-up or 40D Wink).


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nordentro wrote:
ForenSeil wrote:
I've just talked to a local camera dealer.
The Sony A7r will be locally available 18.11.2013 for 2099.-€ and one copy is already reserved for me

I really hope mine will show up that soon too Very Happy
The price in Norway is almost 2300-€ Sad


That's far smaller mark up than they make on beer. You can take a comfort in that.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hoanpham wrote:
when nex7 came out, the flood came shortly later.
There are people re-selling their nex7 with 300usd profit.
...


That was possible because of the delivery delay caused by the flooding in Thailand.
Don't expect that to happen with the A7!


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
This has surely been the hottest gear news for a long time, as the discussions in all the internet forums show.
But whereas I jumped on the bandwagon when they marketed the NEX-7 (and was one of the first customers in Germany to have one), the A7 does not stir anything in me.
Strangely enough, I cannot feel any urge to buy it. Shocked


i can see why nex7 users wouldnt be excited by the A7-both have 24mp sensors with an AA filter, and most were disappointed by nex7+rf lenses. but the A7r has 36mp and no AA filter. that could make a big difference.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
fermy wrote:
Nordentro wrote:
ForenSeil wrote:
I've just talked to a local camera dealer.
The Sony A7r will be locally available 18.11.2013 for 2099.-€ and one copy is already reserved for me

I really hope mine will show up that soon too Very Happy
The price in Norway is almost 2300-€ Sad


That's far smaller mark up than they make on beer. You can take a comfort in that.


A Beer is only 12-15 Euro Wink


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Leica has been begging for a slap in the face: this is it.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
uhoh7 wrote:
Leica has been begging for a slap in the face: this is it.


I like this, pitty they didn't made a silver version like this Wink


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
rbelyell wrote:
LucisPictor wrote:
This has surely been the hottest gear news for a long time, as the discussions in all the internet forums show.
But whereas I jumped on the bandwagon when they marketed the NEX-7 (and was one of the first customers in Germany to have one), the A7 does not stir anything in me.
Strangely enough, I cannot feel any urge to buy it. Shocked


i can see why nex7 users wouldnt be excited by the A7-both have 24mp sensors with an AA filter, and most were disappointed by nex7+rf lenses. but the A7r has 36mp and no AA filter. that could make a big difference.


It surely will make a difference, but it's not the sensor of the NEX-7 that disappointed me, actually the NEX-7 did not disappoint me at all. Wink
I just like the Fuji X-E1 even better. Laughing

And I would neither be interested in a full frame Fuji X.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:

It surely will make a difference, but it's not the sensor of the NEX-7 that disappointed me, actually the NEX-7 did not disappoint me at all. Wink
I just like the Fuji X-E1 even better. Laughing

And I would neither be interested in a full frame Fuji X.

Hello Carsten,
I'm interested in knowing the reasons why.
Smile
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