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Nordentro
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Nice samples of flat field corrected RF lenses in Lightroom
http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinstelbrink/sets/72157638008570035/ _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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raay04
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Weather was very dull today, but I took the camera out for a spin anyway. Some comments:
1. Battery life is appalling - 200 odd shots per charge (which takes hours)
2. I am really not getting on with the EVF in good light. lots of mis-focused shots and peaking doesn't seem to work at all well
3. High ISO performance in RAW is not as good as the Canon EOS 6D, it's quite noisy at ISO 6400
But...
I've just read that by switching on airplane mode (wifi off), you can get over a thousand shots per charge Will try this next time round!
Just need to get used to this EVF now... |
Focus peaking is difficult at first ,keep it to minimum level,only then you can get approximation correctly!!! _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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raay04
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
I have a question for those who already are using the A7s , how is the ergonomics ,i mean to say the focus assist button and cycling magnified view ?? can the magnified view be scrolled with the rear thumb wheel/dial?? can the focus assist be custom assisted to a button near the shuter release or the C2 button?? _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
raay04 wrote: |
I have a question for those who already are using the A7s , how is the ergonomics ,i mean to say the focus assist button and cycling magnified view ?? can the magnified view be scrolled with the rear thumb wheel/dial?? can the focus assist be custom assisted to a button near the shuter release or the C2 button?? |
There is a timer on the magnified view (2 or 5 seconds or just button on off). There is also 2 step magnified view by default, one click = close, two click = closer. Ergonomics are very good for such a small camera IMO. The C2 button is the magnified view by default. I haven´t tried to assign another button because this works just nice ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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raay04
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
raay04 wrote: |
I have a question for those who already are using the A7s , how is the ergonomics ,i mean to say the focus assist button and cycling magnified view ?? can the magnified view be scrolled with the rear thumb wheel/dial?? can the focus assist be custom assisted to a button near the shuter release or the C2 button?? |
There is a timer on the magnified view (2 or 5 seconds or just button on off). There is also 2 step magnified view by default, one click = close, two click = closer. Ergonomics are very good for such a small camera IMO. The C2 button is the magnified view by default. I haven´t tried to assign another button because this works just nice ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
Thank You nordento !! looks like it is far superior than any NEX _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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kuuan
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Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
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There is a timer on the magnified view (2 or 5 seconds or just button on off). There is also 2 step magnified view by default, one click = close, two click = closer. Ergonomics are very good for such a small camera IMO. The C2 button is the magnified view by default. I haven´t tried to assign another button because this works just nice ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
a question:
when I played with a A7 and A7r I was surprised that pushing the button for enlargement first just shows a rectangle of the portion which will be enlarged, only when pushing for the second time it enlarges, and third push enlarges further. Isn't that so? Or can a A7/r be set up to do enlargement with the first press? _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
The screen on theses cameras get scratches easily. I got my first one today
Buy one of those plastic films if you care about this. _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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kds315*
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Sorry that happened Lars! Hmm, I never liked these LCS Screen Protector foils, never used one on any camera I had, never got a scratch :crossfingers: _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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poilu
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
I got my first one today |
sorry for that, they could use gorilla glass, a7 is more expensive than most phone & tablet
kds315 wrote: |
never got a scratch |
it's because you shot only flowers, try with children and cats ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ T* |
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Olivier
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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
poilu wrote: |
it's because you shot only flowers, try with children and cats ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
A bush of roses has serious arguments when speaking about scratching. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
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uhoh7
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:07 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
I've been shooting the A7r with alot of glass.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55299472@N07/
It has it's own way with lenses, we should get an image thread going somewhere.
PM me when somebody makes one ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
uhoh7 wrote: |
I've been shooting the A7r with alot of glass.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55299472@N07/
It has it's own way with lenses, we should get an image thread going somewhere.
PM me when somebody makes one ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
Oh, I see you have the CV 35mm f/1.2, how do you like it on the A7R (I am considering to buy it)
I agree on the image thread, can't you start one? ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Nordentro
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I have used my OM-D pretty rough but never got a scratch. It's not visible at all when using the screen and it is one of those scratches you only see when you tilt your camera against a light source.
First scratch is always the worst
Bottom line, it's only a camera. It's better to have a used scratched camera than a perfect unused camera ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Olivier
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
uhoh7 wrote: |
I've been shooting the A7r with alot of glass.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55299472@N07/
It has it's own way with lenses, we should get an image thread going somewhere.
PM me when somebody makes one ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
Wow !
The A7r pictures are really great, very precise, crispy.
I'm impressed by the mountain landscape with max depth of field.
Looking at your images, I feel that if I were to buy this cam, I would choose the A7r over the A7. It seems to suit better what I'm looking for (proxy and macro, landscape, still photography). _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Nordentro
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Bokeh looks very different on FF too. I have a general feel that almost all lenses give more or less "creamy bokeh" on FF
It was easier to see clear differences in bokeh with m43. You get this "magnifying effect" ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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uhoh7
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:35 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Looking at your images, I feel that if I were to buy this cam, I would choose the A7r over the A7. It seems to suit better what I'm looking for (proxy and macro, landscape, still photography). |
the plain A7 is great and nicer with the RF wides, but the A7r has great depth in the central frame always, and everywhere with the right lenses.
For landscape the camera loves f/8, where it is wildly sharp and edges come in on funny lenses like the CV 35/1.4
have a peep at the original of this one:
cv3514f8 by unoh7, on Flickr
see if you can count the snow guns running on the peak :
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5513/11194265484_85bdab0dfe_o.jpg
Nordentro wrote: |
Bokeh looks very different on FF too. I have a general feel that almost all lenses give more or less "creamy bokeh" on FF
It was easier to see clear differences in bokeh with m43. You get this "magnifying effect" ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
Here is nikkor 10.5 cm 105/2.5 RF @f2.5
a7r_nikkor_105mm_RF by unoh7, on Flickr
The CV 35/1.4 is known for OK bokeh at best, but's really good on the A7r! The king of crazy sonnar bokeh is the nikkor 5cm/1.4. Shot it tonite for the first time:
DSC02199-2 by unoh7, on Flickr
CV 35/1.2 v1 is fantastic on the camera, one of the best 35s I've seen, next to the Leica FLE and the native.
35/1.2 by unoh7, on Flickr
edge performance is also different with the Sonys, so an image thread would be great, just show off all the glass we have with this new tool I'm too controversial, so I'm not starting it, but I will join in ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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my_photography
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:56 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
The more I look at the photos produced by all our members here, the more I want to get a A7/A7r. It will not be so soon though. ![Sad](images/smiles/icon_sad.gif) _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
Zoom Sigma Zoom 28-85/3.5-4.5
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Nordentro
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
CV 35/1.2 is on my wantlist ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Olivier
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
6 ?
What does CV mean ?
The picture that impressed me for its dof, détails and clarity, is this one :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55299472@N07/11215572044/in/set-72157638325827103/
Was it taken with a Nikkor 2.5/105mm rangefinder ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740
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Nordentro
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Nordentro wrote:
Cosina Voigtlander (CV) _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Olivier
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
Cosina Voigtlander (CV) |
Thank you Lars.
So, is it a modern lens ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Nordentro
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Yes, it is a new MF lens. Look at Steve Huffs review here:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/12/02/voigtlander-nokton-35-1-2-aspherical-ii-lens-review-on-the-leica-m9/ _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you.
That's a nice lens.
It seems very well made and looks like Voigtländer APO Lanthar 90mm, except the blue, red and green lines. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Nordentro
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Nordentro wrote:
I got my m42 adapter today! Wow, this is fun! Takumars, Helioses, Jenas, Meyers etc
I have a lot to do with my A7R now!
A guy told me that the A7(R) use the same battery as NEX cameras?!? Can somebody confirm, and is ther cheap china ones to buy?? ![Surprised](images/smiles/icon_surprised.gif) _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Olivier
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
NEX Battery has reference NP-FW50.
It seems that A7 and A7r use the same one.
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/nex-accessories/np-fw50/compatible-products#tab _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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