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A7r + noctilux @f/1
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wow 
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my_photography wrote:
The more I see photos taken by the A7/A7r, the more I like it. Now waiting to see the cons when there are more users having real use of the cameras and will weight the pro vs. con and see whether it suites my photo shooting style.
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Nordentro wrote:
The guy added +1 on sharpening and contrast incamera, but still impressive results 
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hoanpham
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hoanpham wrote:
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| she could shave herself before taking photo id ! |
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calvin83
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calvin83 wrote:
A7 vs 5D2 ISO 12800 compare:
http://www.leica-boss.com/2013/10/sony-alpha-a7-example-raw-files-in-depth/
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stingOM
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stingOM wrote:
Wow if this is accurate this kind of clean IQ is something I have not seen since the release of D3s |
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
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Wow if this is accurate this kind of clean IQ is something I have not seen since the release of D3s |
It should also be noted that the 5DIII and 6D have much improved higher ISO performance than the 5D II. That said, the Sony looks great
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Nordentro
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Nordentro wrote:
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Wow if this is accurate this kind of clean IQ is something I have not seen since the release of D3s |
It should also be noted that the 5DIII and 6D have much improved higher ISO performance than the 5D II. That said, the Sony looks great |
+1 ISO on the MK3 is much better, I tested the camera in studio a few days ago
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uhoh7
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uhoh7 wrote:
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| she could shave herself before taking photo id ! |
everywhere?
that gustav is a very very naughty boy.
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Nikos
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Nikos wrote:
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I want to see all the hairy details 
Downloadable raw files from a7r:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/camera-reviews/sony/a7r/sony-a7rGALLERY.HTM
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Nordentro wrote:
ISO test, pretty good
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Nikos
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Nikos wrote:
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ISO test, pretty good
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Nordentro
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Nordentro wrote:
[quote="Nikos"]
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ISO test, pretty good
Source/link for this ? |
http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-1782/compact-test-sony-a7r-bruit-electronique-12.html
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hoanpham
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hoanpham wrote:
that's not bad when compare with d800.
Also, in camera NR high iso must be careful controlled, like shot in raw and turn off NR, and apply PP later. |
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Phenix jc
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Phenix jc wrote:
1st quick thoughts of Steve Huff :
"In regards to Leica M Mount lenses using adapters…The A7r has issues with the 12, 15 and 21mm focal length, even 28mm to some extent. The A7 had some slight vignetting with the 15 and 21 but no real color shift. Not nearly as much as the A7r. So if you are one who was planning on using WIDE ANGLE Leica M mount glass, go for the A7.
The A7R offers pure power in resolution and that is about the only advantage it gives over the cheaper A7 (besides slight build on the dials). I love both but the A7 shutter is quieter, the AF is faster and the camera costs less and does better with wide angle Leica M glass!"
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SonicScot
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SonicScot wrote:
More opinions here http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/10/30/finding-wrong-sony-a7-a7r-far/ entitled 'What We’re Finding Wrong With the Sony A7 and A7r So Far'.
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bogolisk wrote:
very interesting... it seems like Sony cuts a lot of corners with these cams. So far they seems to be a marketing dream, it remains to be seen if they are photographer's dream or not.
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rbelyell wrote:
that photoblogger analysis is the very first ive read that is actually meaningful, and it took a bite out of my enthusiasm. though i still wait for both final version and more complete testing. im hoping the fdbk sony get from this little Tennessee outing can still effect the final product...
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Nordentro wrote:
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1st quick thoughts of Steve Huff :
"In regards to Leica M Mount lenses using adapters…The A7r has issues with the 12, 15 and 21mm focal length, even 28mm to some extent. The A7 had some slight vignetting with the 15 and 21 but no real color shift. Not nearly as much as the A7r. So if you are one who was planning on using WIDE ANGLE Leica M mount glass, go for the A7.
The A7R offers pure power in resolution and that is about the only advantage it gives over the cheaper A7 (besides slight build on the dials). I love both but the A7 shutter is quieter, the AF is faster and the camera costs less and does better with wide angle Leica M glass!" |
Hmm, this makes me want to change my order to A7. So what was all that talk about off-set on the A7R's sensor for optimized quality for RF lenses ++?!? Bull shit? 
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Mind changed.
I will buy the A7 instead of the A7r
Corner problem difference seems to be the same as between Sony NEX-6 (16MP) and NEX-7 (24MP) - higher pixel density makes more problems with RF glass.
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rbelyell wrote:
N, i have noted elsewhere that in his analysis steve huff said he did not test these lenses. he only took casual shots with one or two WAs, with no landscape shots. his 'conclusions' were only with regard to easily correctable vignetting and CA issues, not for non-correctable landscape edge sharpness. imo, although i really like steve, his 'conclusions' were way premature, and that based on his very limited casual shooting, should not have drawn any conclusions at all.
i would not base any decision on whether or which to purchase based on the very preliminary and paltry 'facts' we actually have at our disposal. sony does not even have a final product yet, as these guys are shooting non final versions.
tony
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
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Mind changed.
I will buy the A7 instead of the A7r
Corner problem difference seems to be the same as between Sony NEX-6 (16MP) and NEX-7 (24MP) - higher pixel density makes more problems with RF glass. |
When are you going to Kerala?
I understand you would want to take a new FF camera on such a trip.
But I would recommend not rushing in if there are some unknowns that might cause you problems.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
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| So what was all that talk about off-set on the A7R's sensor for optimized quality for RF lenses ++?!? Bull shit? |
they will be more Sony full frame bodies so be ready for even more bullshit
| cheaper and smaller sony full frame wrote: |
| according to one of our sources Sony will indeed launch more bodies 2014 including some that will be cheaper and smaller than the A7. It almost sounds like Full Frame and not APS-C will become the mainstream mirrorless system sensor. If Sony can keep the price down than this makes sense to create a clear advantage over the competition |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
There's an A9 to come apparently, maybe that will have a new sensor as the 36mp one has been around a while now?
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