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 Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: first shots with the Koni Rapid Omega |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I took the roll across town to have the film developed, only 4 bucks, and
just two hours waiting time. Film was Kodak Portra 400VC and I have a
few more to scan, but here goes:
When I got home this afternoon the wide angle lens was waiting for me in
my mailbox. 
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Orio wrote:
WOW
Terrific image quality!
Is it a compact camera? 
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Amazing! I am really shocked! Congrats!
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
http://forum.mflenses.com/koni-rapid-omega-100-t16819.html
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Orio and Attila, I really like this camera and no, it is far from being a compact!  Going to try the wide angle tomorrow. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I think this will be my next camera many thanks for showing! Konica ...
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Jesito wrote:
Wow, wow and wow!
That's image quality, and everything else is crap!!!
Bill, congrats for such a nice acquisition. The camera not only looks really pretty but performs really well...
As Attila said, your new camera has opened new needs on some of us...
Regards,
Jes.
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:43 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Stunning IQ and great scans also
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Attila, Jes, and Andy, thanks for your comments. I've been a Konica fan
since I owned the Konica T4's, and these medium format lenses seem to
be the same excellent performers as the 35mm. I'll be trying the wide
angle lens next, and hope it measures up to the Super Omegon. I've
seen some excellent images from both lenses, so I think the blame will
be on me if they don't turn out very well.
Thanks, again. |
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magnet-2009 wrote:
Katastrofo [ wrong username I can say, judging from the results  ],
Name the scanner and describe the workflow.......you have only 30 minutes.... 
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, magnet-2009, are my 30 minutes up, yet? The scanner I
use is the Epson 4490, several of us have the same scanner, I believe,
Orio and Nesster come to mind, and it's not bad results for the money.
I scan these with USM set to low using just the Epson software and no
other settings activated at 1200dpi for medium format, 2400dpi for 35mm.
The scans are then opened in bibble for exposure adjustments, some
sharpening, generally set to 30-50% depending on cam/lens combo. This
yields a TIFF that I finish using PS, for clean up and resize, mainly.
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magnet-2009
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magnet-2009 wrote:
Too fast.....
Thank you very much Katastrofo.
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Holy moly, you could cut yourself on that sharpness |
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Excellent results, like everyone says. How big a pocket do you need to hold one of these Konis?
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Nesster, it would take a very large and *strong* pocket! I just found
out the wide angle I got doesn't focus beyond 3-4 feet from subject. Have
emailed Pacific Rim (going to check if they have a bad rating here) for a
refund. 
When I was testing the Koni at the Bridge Street complex, one of the
maintenance guys was trying to get me to report to the office for permission to shoot.
I tried telling him I'm just an amateur, but he wasn't convinced.
I just ignored him after awhile.
I also tested another cheap Ricoh P&S, the FF-3AF (highly recommend
this for the glove box in your car) and it seems to work OK, takes two
AA alkaline batteries, too:
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Laurence wrote:
If these were mine, I'd be jumping for joy! Unfortunately they aren't, so I just sit in envy.
What BEAUTIFUL resolution, and the combination of the Koni-Omega output and the scan output produces a fantastic piece of work.
Bill, I think you have a "marriage" there. These results are phenomenal.
Have you gotten any "looks" yet from people wondering what heck that THING is? 
Man, you did very very well.
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: first shots with the Koni Rapid Omega |
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Nesster wrote:
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I took the roll across town to have the film developed, only 4 bucks, and
just two hours waiting time. |
Now this bit is a serious cause for jealousy. We used to have such a place in town... now it's only send-away, and one camera store that does it too. The other minilab wants $15 per roll just to develop 120 film... Obviously they don't want the business.
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Laurence, I think this is one of the best $170 I've spent lately. I'm very
pleased with this camera. Will be sending Pacific Rim the defective lens
tomorrow and they promise to refund my money upon receipt. I may
just look for the 180mm, now. Yes, I've gotten some strange looks with
the camera!
Nesster, sorry to hear that. 15 bucks? Yeah, I'd say they don't
want the business. The ma and pa also does 120 BW but charge $5, and
they do rolls every day so the longest you'd have to wait (before 11am
you get either BW or color back to you by 1pm) would be the next day.
The BW negs come cut and lovingly sleeved in sheets of Print File, too.
With slides it's Wallies all the way, and the 10-12 day wait. |
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tobbsman wrote:
WOW 
This boats shot is just so beautiful ... something I would hang on the wall ...
Cheers
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Katastrofo wrote:
Tobbs, that particular shot was with a $10 Ricoh point and shoot off ebay,
but thanks all the same! |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Wow Bill!!! Looking at the shots on flicker I thought your shots would look like this. Makes a person want to put the 35mm away. I can only imagine the results you will be getting when you get used to it. There is another one going right off, but I suppose you looked at it before you got the one you purchased.
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Ron, I got this camera at a very good price with 15 day warranty
which sold me on it. Film overlap is a problem with these cams once the
gears get worn, but this one had even spacing thoughout the roll, lucky
me.
The Rapid Omega 200 has changeable backs which makes it a little nicer
than the 100.
With folks having flatbed scanners it just makes sense to go with medium format or larger,
that's where these scanners come into their own. If I was going to stick with only 35mm, I'd
be after a used Nikon Coolscan, for sure. |
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 1:52 am Post subject: 58 (60) Hexanon would be good addition |
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jmiro wrote:
I used one of these for many decades as my wide lens with 6x7 rollbacks. For this type of use one needs to take it out of the shutter and put it in another standard and easily usable shutter as opposed to the Rube Goldberg setup the KOs have.
Not merely in my opinion but also in that of many others users of Koni-Oemgas this was the best lens of their set. I see this lens go for less than a $100 on Ebay fairly regularly since very few use K-Os any more and people do not feel up to or are unaware of the ability just to switch shutters.
By saying this I am not putting down the other lenses of the set. On the contrary. But this one was is really special whether used on the K-O or with another camera setup. Also just think what the cost of a used or new larger format "normal" wide lens of this type costs. The KO is for any reasonable price a true steal.
The same was true of the 35 mm Hexanons. Almost all were very good but a few - 24, 40, 85, 135/3.2 - were and still are very special. I kept these and still use them with film cameras. But these also go for very low prices on a fairly regular basis especially when compared to other excellent lenses of these focal lengths.
Sometimes the KO wide lens is labeled as 58 and sometimes 60 mm. But it is the same lens, same formula.
Try one. I think it will increase your and our enjoyment. |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jmiro, thanks for the info about KO lenses! I'm having to send back to an
ebay vendor the Hexanon 5.6/58 lens as I could not focus beyond a point
of 3-4 feet from the subject. The rear lens element intrudes into the body
quite a ways, but looking at the lens diagram, that's the nature of the
beast. It didn't come with the wide angle VF that goes with the lens, either,
which would make it rather difficult to frame a shot.
I'm very pleased with this normal lens (Super Omegon) that is anything
but normal.
I will have to look for those 35mm Hexes you mentioned, don't own but
one! So far I have two different models of 3.5/28, 1.8/40, 1.4/50,
3.5/55 macro-Hexanon, and the UC 4/80-200 zoom which I like very
much. Hexanons are perhaps the best excuse to go 4/3 as they are such
great lenses for cheap.
Thanks again,
Bill |
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| Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 5:02 am Post subject: Re: first shots with the Koni Rapid Omega |
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Orio wrote:
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Now this bit is a serious cause for jealousy. We used to have such a place in town... now it's only send-away, and one camera store that does it too. The other minilab wants $15 per roll just to develop 120 film... Obviously they don't want the business. |
Like I wrote, I am taking a darkroom course. They said that developing your own colour film is not as easy as B&W, but with proper equipment (such as those containers with slots for tanks and controlled water temperature) not impossible either. I would consider it as an option at least for your everyday film. You then can send to the labs only those colour films that are really worth the safety of a pro lab development.
For B&W is not even a choice to make, go straight for your own processing for both 135 and 120 formats, you will not be dependent from labs anymore and will obtain far superior results than labs.
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