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martinsmith99
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: What's your favourite light meter |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I've got a modern Sekonic, but there are some bargain vintage meters out there.
What do you use and what do you like about it? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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GrahamNR17
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Ancient Weston Master III. Reliable and accurate, and if it dies, they are still repairable.
It helps that I got it for six quid complete with everything |
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martinsmith99
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:45 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Even with the invercone? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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GrahamNR17
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Meter, invercone, ND filter (not used on later models), and two cases (one for the meter alone, one for the meter plus cone and filter).
The only downside is that it's calibrated in Weston values, which is easy to convert (0.8 x ASA) |
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amoebahydra
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: |
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amoebahydra wrote:
I use all these for different purposes.
1. Color meter, Gossen Sixticolor and Minolta Color Meter II, for checking correct color temperature and correct color correction filters required. This is particular useful for color reversal film shot;
2. Spot meter, Minolta spotmeter, for visualizing contrast of the scene. This is particular useful if you use Adams Andsel's Zone System;
3. General purpose exposure meter, Minolta flash meter IV and Sekonic L608, these meters can take incident reading as well as reflective reading. The incident reading is taken to the subject and making use of dome to reduce exposure by 2 stops, this is particular useful for reversal film and digital photography;
4. Various clamp on meters, Leica MR-4 and Pentax Meter, for integration with camera that has no built-in meters;
5. Miniature meters, like Sekonic Twinmate L-208 and Voigtlander VC-2, are non-bulky and handy for taking casual reflective measurement;
6. Spot metering and average metering for Large Format metering can be taken at the film plane by Sinar Booster 1 (to use with Minolta Flashmeter IV) and Horseman Exposure Meter 45 respectively. This is particular useful for macro-work where bellow factor can be forgotten.
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GrahamNR17
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
amoebahydra wrote: |
I use all these for different purposes.
1. Color meter, Gossen Sixticolor and Minolta Color Meter II, for checking correct color temperature and correct color correction filters required. This is particular useful for color reversal film shot;
2. Spot meter, Minolta spotmeter, for visualizing contrast of the scene. This is particular useful if you use Adams Andsel's Zone System;
3. General purpose exposure meter, Minolta flash meter IV and Sekonic L608, these meters can take incident reading as well as reflective reading. The incident reading is taken to the subject and making use of dome to reduce exposure by 2 stops, this is particular useful for reversal film and digital photography;
4. Various clamp on meters, Leica MR-4 and Pentax Meter, for integration with camera that has no built-in meters;
5. Miniature meters, like Sekonic Twinmate L-208 and Voigtlander VC-2, are non-bulky and handy for taking casual reflective measurement;
6. Spot metering and average metering for Large Format metering can be taken at the film plane by Sinar Booster 1 (to use with Minolta Flashmeter IV) and Horseman Exposure Meter 45 respectively. This is particular useful for macro-work where bellow factor can be forgotten.
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Yep, I think you have it pretty well covered |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I found for me best light meter an another camera with built in light meter currently I dedicated as light meter a Konica FS-1 body with 50mm lens. _________________ -------------------------------
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Esox lucius
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
I go with available light, not too complicated to do with f/16 rule as long as there's no flash involved. I have the Voigtländer VC Meter II, http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=971&PT_ID=292 which is very handy on the meterless rangefinders (Zeiss Super Ikonta, Ikonta and Leica M4-2) _________________ Vilhelm
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martinsmith99
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:28 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
amoebahydra> That's an impressive collection. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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scsambrook
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
GrahamNR17 wrote: |
Meter, invercone, ND filter (not used on later models), and two cases (one for the meter alone, one for the meter plus cone and filter).
The only downside is that it's calibrated in Weston values, which is easy to convert (0.8 x ASA) |
I thought the Weston III film speeds were actually ASA values, even if it still said Weston on the meter. Not that it makes much difference - ! _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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scsambrook
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: Re: What's your favourite light meter |
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scsambrook wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
I've got a modern Sekonic, but there are some bargain vintage meters out there.
What do you use and what do you like about it? |
I still use a Weston V and a Weston EuroMaster - both read exactly the same and work fine with slide film. Westons seem to give a 'lean' reading which is exactly what you need with reversal material. And digital.
And I have a 1960 vintage Zeiss Ikophot which gives a 'generous' reading which is good for colour neg films. It has a really lovely leather case - I wonder who made those cases?
I also have a cds Metrastar which has a built-in viewfinder and reads on about the same angle of coverage as a 135mm lens on 35mm fullframe (ca. 18 degrees). It's very good, but uses the old mercury PX 625 battery. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I have never been let down once by the readings of my Gossen meters.
However I am also using a Sekonic Twinmate L-208 for it's small size and portability. I don't trust it as my Gossens, but for negative B&W and colour, coupled with my experience, is surely enough. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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martinsmith99
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Orio wrote: |
However I am also using a Sekonic Twinmate L-208 for it's small size and portability. I don't trust it as my Gossens, but for negative B&W and colour, coupled with my experience, is surely enough. |
I hear that reflective metering is inaccurate with the Twinmate. Is this your finding too? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Nesster
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
I like my two Gossens - the wee Pilot in its grey case, and a Luna Lux SBC with the big 9v battery. It has a simplistic over/on/under set of lights but works well. The Pilot is cute but mainly is good for daylight.
Typically I take a couple of baseline readings and then use dead reckoning for the rest of the time. A habit I got into with the Pen FT. _________________ -Jussi
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Farside
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: What's your favourite light meter |
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Farside wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
I've got a modern Sekonic, but there are some bargain vintage meters out there.
What do you use and what do you like about it? |
The main meter is a Luna SBC Pro - dead reliable and no oddball unobtainable batteries, a standard 9v PP3, as was fitted to millions of tranny radios.
Otherwise - a pair of old batteryless selenium meters; a Hanimex Sekonic and a Horvex 2. Both of which are within half a stop of the Luna - not bad for 50 year old cells. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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amoebahydra
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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amoebahydra wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
However I am also using a Sekonic Twinmate L-208 for it's small size and portability. I don't trust it as my Gossens, but for negative B&W and colour, coupled with my experience, is surely enough. |
I hear that reflective metering is inaccurate with the Twinmate. Is this your finding too? |
Mine is working perfectly, however, you must be aware of where the meter point to. The meter has indication showing the metering direction and you have to point a little bit downward in order to prevent direct sunlight falling to the sensor. |
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
However I am also using a Sekonic Twinmate L-208 for it's small size and portability. I don't trust it as my Gossens, but for negative B&W and colour, coupled with my experience, is surely enough. |
I hear that reflective metering is inaccurate with the Twinmate. Is this your finding too? |
I can not tell yet, I will let you know after some more rolls. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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alex
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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alex wrote:
I have had my Weston Master V since 1964. It was repaired once, about ten years later, to free a sticking needle. Since then, it has worked reliably and constantly. It gives the same reflected light readings as my Sekonic L308. I use it mostly in incident light mode, and choose it before any other meter. In fact, the only reason I got the Sekonic is because the Westons aren't all that good at measuring flash. _________________ Alex |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I have got three lightmeters:
- Porst Junior (a very compact battery powered one - 70s - works well, nice!)
- EAW Fotolux II (very old - early 60s - no battery but surprisingly enough it still works But to be honest I do not completely trust it.)
- Gossen LunaSix 3 (works perfectly! I completely trust it.) _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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martinsmith99
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Well, it looks like I've just added a Lenningrad 4 to my collection.
I hate this site! _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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GrahamNR17
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
HAHAAAAA, something else to collect
I like the little Lenningrad meters, simple and always seem to work. Did you get the little opal incidence snap-on with it? |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
I have got three lightmeters:
- Porst Junior (a very compact battery powered one - 70s - works well, nice!)
- EAW Fotolux II (very old - early 60s - no battery but surprisingly enough it still works But to be honest I do not completely trust it.)
- Gossen LunaSix 3 (works perfectly! I complete trust it.) |
Which battery do you use for Lunasix ? _________________ -------------------------------
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martinsmith99
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
GrahamNR17 wrote: |
HAHAAAAA, something else to collect |
Help me!
I like the little Lenningrad meters, simple and always seem to work. Did you get the little opal incidence snap-on with it?[/quote]
Yes, it has the white doofer I believe. Though I though the opal cover would be for reflective metering? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:01 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Attila wrote: |
LucisPictor wrote: |
I have got three lightmeters:
- Porst Junior (a very compact battery powered one - 70s - works well, nice!)
- EAW Fotolux II (very old - early 60s - no battery but surprisingly enough it still works But to be honest I do not completely trust it.)
- Gossen LunaSix 3 (works perfectly! I complete trust it.) |
Which battery do you use for Lunasix ? |
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GrahamNR17
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
GrahamNR17 wrote: |
HAHAAAAA, something else to collect |
Help me!
I like the little Lenningrad meters, simple and always seem to work. Did you get the little opal incidence snap-on with it? |
Yes, it has the white doofer I believe. Though I though the opal cover would be for reflective metering?[/quote]
That's the equiv. of an Invercone on a Weston |
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