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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: What is/was/has been your WORST lens? |
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LucisPictor wrote:
We often ask about the best gear we have.
What was the worst lens that you ever had and the worst lens that you still have?
In my case:
- Auto Reflecta 1.7/55 (Poor performance and built like a toy lens.)
- ENNA Ennalyt 1:3.5/28 (But only because of a intense haze inside, I guess. Sold.)
- Auto Exaktar 1:2.8/35 (this lens is not even mediocre in any respect. Sold.)
- Revuenon-Special 2.8/35 (Sold due to it's bad performance. I had two copies, one was a poor the other one an abysmal performer.)
- my first copy of a Helios - 44 1:2/58 (But only because the rear lens was badly scratched and it had some bad haze inside. I gave it away.)
And the worst ever was:
- Tokina AF 1:3.5-5.6/28-80 (I am sorry, Tokina. I am a Tokina fan, but this lens was just "pants". Really bad, I did not get a single good or at least sharp shot from it! Sold for cheap money.)
The worst lenses I still have are
- Tamron Twin-Tele 5.5/225 (Quite nice as a 2.8/135 but a 'special' TC turns it into a 5.5/225 and then it is total crap.)
- Greens London 3.5/135 (Nice performance, but the blades fell apart after some weeks, without me doing anything!) _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
I don't have bad lenses, only a novoflex 105 who give bad performance wide open and awful bokeh but maybe some people like that ?
today shot
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Poilu, the lens is charming, it gives a nice glow to the picture... And even like this bokeh, quite extreme but nice. Not very sharp, but interesting...
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Hi Jes
You made me happy, now I don't have any bad lens _________________ T* |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
The Marep 200 is, without doubt, the worst purchase I've made. It's actually reasonably sharp, but the flare... just show it a bit of sun anywhere in the sky (even from behind) and any reflections in the scene just fog out the centre.
I've never seen anything like it. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
A Revuenon 200mm zoom after the test I throw to garbage can.. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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Helios
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 537 Location: East of France
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Helios wrote:
First , a Makinon 4/300mm ... Sold .From f/4 to f/22 , impossible to get a decent sharp image ... Howeve , good colors.
Second , Mepro 8/500 (die "wundertüte"....) My russian 3M5CA f/8 500 cannot be compared ...
Third , the Meritar 2,9/45 on Beirette ... Poor , but ? I'm searching for a M42 or exakta copy... |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Fujinon 55/2,2. Would have been better to use the bottom of a coke bottle. Truly a disgusting performer. Would anyone like to buy it?
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Perhaps Abbazz able to response why, he know very well Fujinon products, this is a surprise me really. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Abbazz uses Fujitsu lenses for his medium film rangefinder. These are top-class lenses for professionals.
The 2.2/55 was a (rather) slow standard lens for the mass market.
BUT, I also had a Fuji 2.2/55 (in M42) and it was quite a nice lens. I only sold it because I have never used it due to its f2.2. I had much faster and better lenses.
So, it surprises me, Patrick, that you are so dissatisfied with it... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Maybe I should give it another try ....
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Abbazz
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 1098 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Abbazz wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Perhaps Abbazz able to response why, he know very well Fujinon products, this is a surprise me really. |
Attila, I don't know much about Fujinon lenses for 35mm. As stated by Cartens, I use mostly Fujinon lenses (made by Fuji Camera Co., not Fujitsu) on my medium format cameras (Fujica G690, Fuji G645zi). These are first class professional lenses, which cost much more than 35mm lenses.
I have a Soft Focus 85/4 Fujinon lens designed for 35mm photography, which is a specialty lens. It's a good lens (within its scope), well constructed. Here are some pictures taken with this lens wide open (with maximum soft focus effect):
The same picture, but stopped down to f/8:
Apart from this lens, I have read good reviews of many Fujinon lenses in the magazines. There are also good opinions on the web, like this one (from this page):
As far as screw mount lens recommendations, I think many of the Fuji EBC lenses from the 1970's were exceptional, and they are highly under-rated. I had to look hard to find any of them, but have gotten the 28 f3.5, 50 f1.4, 100mm f2.8, and 200mm f4.5. They are all superb and compare favorably with the best primes I have ever used, including those from Nikon and Leica.
Of course, it seems there have also been some dogs among the cheapest lenses, like this is the case with many manufacturers (Canon...).
Cheers!
Abbazz _________________ Il n'y a rien dans le monde qui n'ait son moment decisif, et le chef-d'oeuvre de la bonne conduite est de connaitre et de prendre ce moment. - Cardinal de Retz
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
A Tamron 28/200 manual focus zoom.
I feel bad in writing this, as that lens served me honestly while I was unemployed and unable to buy any better lens, So I should really respect it more. But is was really awful: slow, vignetting at all positions, muddy image quality unless stopped down to a minimum of f/8. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Call me a thread necrophilic but I like to reopen this
My worst intact photo lens without any haze, fungus or dust is the Auto Makinon Zoom 1:3.5 f=80-200mmm MC with 57mm screw mount and Konica mount
Unsharp like shit at the long end and also many CAs
But I have to admit that this lens is build very well _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
Call me a thread necrophilic but I like to reopen this
My worst intact lens without any haze, fungus or dust is the Auto Makinon Zoom 1:3.5 f=80-200mmm MC with 57mm screw mount and Konica mount
Unsharp like shit at the long end and also many CAs |
Well I had a Makinon zoom IIRC about 35-70mm well made but results were crap and I gave it to a charity shop, but my copy of a Makinon 28mm prime is good. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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FluffPuppy
Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 365
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
180mm f/3.4 Leitz APO-Telyt-R. I hated that lens. It did not have typical Leica color, it did not focus close, and.....well I just hated the images it produced. It was not designed for pictorial use at all.
It's not that it was defective, it's that it was designed for military use, not pictorial use. Portraits looked awful!
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
FluffPuppy wrote: |
180mm f/3.4 Leitz APO-Telyt-R. I hated that lens. It did not have typical Leica color, it did not focus close, and.....well I just hated the images it produced. It was not designed for pictorial use at all.
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Puh I nearly bought this lens _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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FluffPuppy
Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 365
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
FluffPuppy wrote: |
180mm f/3.4 Leitz APO-Telyt-R. I hated that lens. It did not have typical Leica color, it did not focus close, and.....well I just hated the images it produced. It was not designed for pictorial use at all.
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Puh I nearly bought this lens |
Don't! It's a reconnaissance lens, not a pictorial lens. |
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
Leitz Summar for flair - jeeze it was hideous
Meyer Domiplan (Donkeyplan) for sheer nastiness of all imaginable kinds
and a Rokkor I had in the 70s, but I don't remember what focal length it was. I remember Amateur Photographer magazine at the time declaring it the worst lens they had ever tested
Other than that, I don't think I've had any real lemons. |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
poilu wrote: |
I don't have bad lenses, only a novoflex 105 who give bad performance wide open and awful bokeh but maybe some people like that ?
today shot
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I love those links that do not work..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................boah _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
FluffPuppy wrote: |
180mm f/3.4 Leitz APO-Telyt-R. I hated that lens. It did not have typical Leica color, it did not focus close, and.....well I just hated the images it produced. It was not designed for pictorial use at all.
It's not that it was defective, it's that it was designed for military use, not pictorial use. Portraits looked awful!
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Just to sharp to hide any ambitious artsy trials
sorry
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
www.classic-cameras-and-lenses.de |
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FluffPuppy
Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 365
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
exaklaus wrote: |
FluffPuppy wrote: |
180mm f/3.4 Leitz APO-Telyt-R. I hated that lens. It did not have typical Leica color, it did not focus close, and.....well I just hated the images it produced. It was not designed for pictorial use at all.
It's not that it was defective, it's that it was designed for military use, not pictorial use. Portraits looked awful!
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Just to sharp to hide any ambitious artsy trials
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No, skin looked very odd on Kodachrome 25. It was corrected far into infrared or something, but it was just awful. Blue veins showed up on a pale woman's skin. It was not a matter of sharpness at all, it just stunk for people photography. |
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danfromm
Joined: 04 Sep 2011 Posts: 585
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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danfromm wrote:
Fluffy wrote, re the 180/3.4 Apo-Telyt R:
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It's a reconnaissance lens, not a pictorial lens. |
Are you sure? I ask because none of the aerial cameras I'm acquainted with used it. Its a small format lens ...
And what's the difference? I ask because (a) I have and use a number of lenses that flew and they don't give that problem and (b) with the exception of lenses made explicitly for IR photography most of the aerial camera lenses for which I have data have worse transmission in the near IR than in the visible. Some, however, are poorly achromatized and are best used with a narrow pass filter; examples include, according to my USAF data sheets the 3"/4.5 Goerz Biogon(!) and the 6"/1.5 Perkin-Elmer.
Back to the worst lens ever owned, I have two candidates:
1000/11 Celestron C-90. Terrible astigmatism, horrible central hot spot, awful build quality, ... Did I forget to say that it was soft soft soft? Microscopists have a concept that fits it perfectly. Empty magnification. Cheap and not worth the price.
35/4 Rodenstock Eurygon for Polaroid MP-3. Resolution so low at 1:1 and f/4 that it couldn't be focused wide open at 1:1. |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
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180mm f/3.4 Leitz APO-Telyt-R. I hated that lens. It did not have typical Leica color, it did not focus close, and.....well I just hated the images it produced. It was not designed for pictorial use at all.
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Puh I nearly bought this lens |
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FluffPuppy
Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 365
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:21 am Post subject: |
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FluffPuppy wrote:
danfromm wrote: |
Fluffy wrote, re the 180/3.4 Apo-Telyt R:
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It's a reconnaissance lens, not a pictorial lens. |
Are you sure? |
Of course I am sure! I was designed for the US Navy by Leitz Canada. It was part of the "High-Resolution Photographic System". You learn all about it from google. A terrible lens for general use, but good for its intended purpose. It's not a 'bad' lens, just not designed for pictorial photography.
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