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kuuan
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:37 pm Post subject: CV Super Wide Heliar f4.5 15mm on Ricoh GXR M |
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kuuan wrote:
some fairly recent pics
around Kathmandu Valley, Nepal
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
at Pashupatinath temple during Teej, Kathmandu
Teej by andreas, on Flickr
in Bangkok, Thailand
Bangkok by andreas, on Flickr
south Thailand, near Lang Suan
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
in the 'Mostviertel', Austria
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
a personal note:
right now discussions about how well the new Sony A7 and A7r FF cameras will work with RF wide angle lenses are starting.
Of course I am very interested in these cameras. I have been longing for a FF to have better wide angle performance with my manual lenses and to be able to see lenses made for 35mm film in their 'full glory'. I prefer my camera to be small and light, first used Pentax dSLR and when APS-C mirrorless cams came to the market first got NEX5N and later Ricoh GXR M. Turned out that I prefer their EVF and aids for manual focusing and soon found that on these cameras RF lenses make much a better fit than SLR lenses which I hardly have been using since.
The 15mm Heliar on GXR M gives me the wide angle performance I had been lacking. This combination ( and to a minor extent the cheap but good AF Sigma f2.8/19mm on my NEX and the CV Skopar f4/25mm ) made big part of my wish for a FF obsolete. At least it will give me patience to not be an early adaptor
cheers,
andreas
note: edited April 2016 to repost the photos, original photos had disappeared
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kds315*
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
WOW Andreas, very nice shots!
#1 is amazing!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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sichko
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
Great pictures. _________________ John |
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Alex H
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Alex H wrote:
I totally agree with Klaus about #1! |
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calvin83
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
#1 is one of the very good example to show how to use a wide angle.
About the performance of the VM15 on NEX FF, you can take a look at this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronscheffler/tags/voigtlandersuperwideheliar15mmf45asphericalm/
The VM12 seems works better than the VM15...
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Rick1779
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
One of my favorite lens
great series |
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Rick1779
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
damn, seems quite similar to the horrible results that usually gave me my first nex5 (14.2megapixel) |
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kuuan
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
thank you very much guys for looking and commenting, you make me feel good indeed
I am pretty new to using wide lenses, slowly I am getting some experience with it ( No 6 currently at No. 171 at flickr explore )
Calvin thank you for the links. I remember having read that on various NEX the CV12mm had less issues than the CV15mm too. These first test shots taken with the A7 don't look good, hopefully the A7r will do better.
There was not any processing of corners on any of the pics shown.
Oh, and once again here is my full flickr set of photos taken with this lens: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/sets/72157632037409165/ ( first third seen taken with the Ricoh, later pics taken with NEX5N )
cheers, andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Excellent series, rich of contrasting subjects, very expressive! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Beautiful series! Hat off! Bangkok looks tough, Nepal is so beautiful. _________________ -------------------------------
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hoanpham
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Very nice series. I just post some photos to share with you...
http://forum.mflenses.com/voigtlaender-super-wide-heliar-f4-5-15mm-on-nex5n-t62250.html |
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Jesito
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Excellent results!
#1 is outstanding.
It amazes me to see so good samples. I own also the Heliar and the GXR with the A12M module and the shots with that combo are far away in terms of sharpness and colour. Is yours M mount or L39 as it's mine? I'm beginning to suspect of the adapter... _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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kuuan
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:52 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
thank you Orio, Attila, Hoan and Jesito.
Orio I am lucky to get good subjects.
Attila Bangkok is great city, I love the place, at least if I stay short enough before being stuck in too much traffic becomes a nuisance Certainly there is a big contrast to Nepal countryside, only driving with a bike from Kathmandu for an hour or two one arrives at very picturesque and simple places.
Hoan the NEX5N ( and so should NEX6, NEXF3 and NEX3N? ), as your lovely photos show, no doubt does a good job with the 15mm Heliar too!
Jesito mine is the LTM version too. The adapter(s) I use are the cheapest LTM>M adapters I found on ebay costing well below 10 usd, some 6 or 7 usd, if I remember right. I have 3 of them, bought more than one because I want to use some to try lens conversions, actually I had a 4th, but that one by now, after alteration, is unusable. I did not test them against each other, just use any and have been thinking that they all just work fine. Actually I cannot imagine how it could influence IQ. It has an outer rim that makes it sit flush against the M mount introducing the 0.85mm difference between M and LTM mount and the m mount sits tight without any lateral or other play. Well, they might be a tad too thick because also my LTM lenses rather focus beyond infinity, but that's something I accepted with any of my cheap adapters for both NEX and GXR M.
best greetings,
andreas _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
When I saw this thread in the list, I though it was a lens test.
But it's much more, Andreas!!
Amazing shots!! Thanks very much for sharing! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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kuuan
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:51 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
thank you Carsten, happy you like the pics,
in a way it is a lens test too, resp. I try to show how well the Ricoh works with RF wide angles. I hope that in the long run i shall have a small FF camera, but I don't expect that a 20mm or 24mm on a FF would outperform this combination all that much. _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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IAZA
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:15 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
really nice series Andreas
what a nice lens!
wait a minute.. I have this lens too _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
and My gallery
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Digitalriver
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Digitalriver wrote:
Wonderful, so nice , your pictures make me wanna buy Heliar 15mm for my GXR
I use my A12 28mm as wideangle ,not as sharp but gives decent results too. |
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kuuan
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
thank you Suat, and thank you for adding your thread with your samples!
Digitalriver I recommend this lens very much! Jesito is not happy with his but I think that he must have a faulty copy. If you review the samples taken with it on other cameras you can see that it performs very well on other cameras too and possibly best, only Leicas may match / surpass (?), on the Ricoh _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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kuuan
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
forgot to show how this camera and lens combo looks like, here it is:
and though my better ones are to be seen in my original post and I had shown some of these in another thread some more samples of this camera and lens combo
from Vietnam:
hydrofoil ride by andreas, on Flickr
on the hydrofoil from Saigon to the beach town of Vung Tau
Vung Tau by andreas, on Flickr
at the beach in Vung Tau
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
meat shop in China town of Saigon
and a photographer in his shop in Kathmandu, Nepal:
Kathmandu photographer by andreas, on Flickr
edited April 2016 to re-post the photos that had disappeared _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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kuuan
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
in Yogyakarta, Indonesia
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
at the bird market
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
in Saigon:
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
hiii by andreas, on Flickr
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
in Bangkok, at the Chatuchak market:
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
in Malaysia, Bukit Bintang monorail station in Kuala Lumpur:
Bukit Bintang monorail station by andreas, on Flickr
former railway headquarter, Taiping:
former railway headquarter by andreas, on Flickr
a nearby charcoal factory:
charcoal factory by andreas, on Flickr
in Japan, Tokyo:
not Shibuya by andreas, on Flickr
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
Kamakura, the Daibutsu:
Daibutsu by andreas, on Flickr
and a camera shop:
photo shop by andreas, on Flickr
in China town of Yokohama:
school girls by andreas, on Flickr
and from Austria, near from where I grew up:
Margaritenwiese by andreas, on Flickr _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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kuuan
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
in the meantime I did buy a used Sony A7 FF camera and I have tried my CV wide angles. The CV 4.5/15 has very marked issues, the 4/21 performs mostly alright, the 4/25 is a bit more problematic again.
Recently the CV 4.5/15 on the Ricoh GXR M again has become my favorite combo for wide angles use:
rice seedlings by andreas, on Flickr
lawang by andreas, on Flickr
Proud Vespa owner and son by andreas, on Flickr
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
lady police dinner by andreas, on Flickr _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Following comes to my mind:
Statement by Sean Read of "ReadReviews":
"Added December 3, 2015: Today, more than four years after it was introduced, the Mount A12 still sets the benchmark among APS-C cameras for performance with RF lenses. In fact, its performance with many of these RF lenses is still better than any camera made to date except for the Leica M models themselves."
Nothing more to say. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
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kuuan
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:04 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
Thomas I just did a fast comparison with my CV wide angles, the 4.5/15, 4/21 and 4/25 on Sony A7 in APS-C crop mode and on Ricoh GXR M
http://forum.mflenses.com/cv-wide-angle-lenses-compared-on-sony-a7-and-ricoh-gxr-m-t74673.html
it's a fast and dirty comparison meant for myself but I decided to share it anyways, it confirms my 'feeling' that the GXR M + Heliar 4.5/15 is my best wide angle set up.
I hope that one also can see what I had written earlier, on the A7 the 4.5/15 is problematic, the 4/21 quite good, the 4/25 a bit worse again _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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tomzcafe wrote:
Fantastic series ... you really travel a lot. _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/oom_tommy |
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kuuan
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
tomzcafe wrote: |
Fantastic series ... you really travel a lot. |
thank you!
right, though I don't travel all that much, but my life is spread out over various places.
Believe me, I don't mean to brag but rather feel embarrassed and anyway simply only can show photos of the places where I had taken them. I am very happy if somebody enjoys the variety
a few more from Japan, Kyoto
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr
and Tokyo, 14 days Tokyo and surroundings 'was' traveling
around Senso-ji by andreas, on Flickr
Untitled by andreas, on Flickr _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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