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farmer83
Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: volna 80mm P6? |
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farmer83 wrote:
This volna 80mm is laying now for 2 years in my cupboard, because I never had a adapter for it.
Now I'm curious what kind of photographs it produces. Is it a pentacon six (P6) mount? Or a earlier kiev mount?
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
it is not very sharp , and have lots of flare if the sun is not in your back ..
low contrast and strange colours.
but it's a good lens to have fun with. |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 742 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
I often wonder about how this compares against the very similar Arsat; Herbert Keppler did a head-to-head test and found the Arsat to be a tiny bit better, but then it could have been sample variations. |
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farmer83
Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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farmer83 wrote:
Farside, glad to hear from you that the mount is P6!
That would be no problem with a P6-eos adapter. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
std wrote: |
it is not very sharp , and have lots of flare if the sun is not in your back ..
low contrast and strange colours.
but it's a good lens to have fun with. |
Your copy seems have some trouble or your eyes is better than mine, because I found this is a really great lens with beautiful bokeh, colors and sharpness is okay.
Kiev-88 is screw like mount not bayonet. _________________ -------------------------------
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
well ..there is sharpness mostly in the center.. the edges are quite soft.
it's suitable for portraits.
but the out of focus is too busy for my taste. |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
i agree with attila, i love this lens. i use it with canon 5d and adapter and i find it sharp and beautiful colors; it's one of my favorite lenses. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Karhallarn
Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 577
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
It was one of my worst decisions to sell my Volna 80mm! I really really love the photos taken with it! It's sharp, has nice warm colors and focuses down to 0.6m! This is a nice lens!
If you don't like it, I take it!
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
btw if you have those cheap sets of macro rings you can mount it without an adapter.
Just measure how many rings do you need and you can attach the lens with packing tape to the rings.
and it will be like tilt/shift |
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mr_Equator
Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Posts: 42
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:57 am Post subject: |
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mr_Equator wrote:
Seele wrote: |
I often wonder about how this compares against the very similar Arsat; Herbert Keppler did a head-to-head test and found the Arsat to be a tiny bit better, but then it could have been sample variations. |
This lens is produced on the arsenal factory in 1993, so it should be very similar. sample variations would not surprise me, production culture is very low there. _________________ My flickr gallery:
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farmer83
Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Posts: 65 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:22 am Post subject: |
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farmer83 wrote:
I know the russian quality control was not that good, but still I love allmost all my russian lenses: tair 300mm, mir 37mm, jupiter 37am, jupiter 9, 135mm and the helios-lenses.
These are all jewels to me!
By the way, I bought this volna-lens from a lady that also didn't knew which bayonet it was. I knew at that time (2 years ago) that it was a good lens. So it was a bit of a gamble.... |
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Chris Watson
Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 168 Location: Fort Worth
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Chris Watson wrote:
I have the Rokinon 85 1.4, the Jupiter-9, and this lens in the 80-85mm prime range and I have to say that the Volna out of all three of them gets used the most. I just love it.
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mr_Equator
Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Posts: 42
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:29 am Post subject: |
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mr_Equator wrote:
Interesting.
May be I should try it one day if I come across it.
Resolution in specs is 45/25 l/mm center/field but apparently it's not a problem. _________________ My flickr gallery:
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:23 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
it's a russian copy of a east german copy of the west german planar .. so in theory should be good.
What i doesn't like with russian lenses is the build quality.. it really sux.
Actually this one is very good built... or at least my sample. |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 742 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
The Volna/Arsat could be a copy of the Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar, but the Biometar is totally different from the Oberkochen Planar, thus no copying involved at all. |
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:48 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
The Volna seems to focus much closer than the Biometar, so perhaps it isn't a copy, either. I think the "mother of all lens tests" included a Volna, but sample variation probably makes it pointless trying to draw conclusions from that. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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mr_Equator
Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Posts: 42
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:09 am Post subject: |
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mr_Equator wrote:
Well, optical schema of volna3 is different from Planar - instead of the first group ( 2 lenses glued together) before the aperture volna3 has 1 ordinary lens. Other elements in both schema are the same.
no wonder it's softer then planar. _________________ My flickr gallery:
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Just purchased this one. Hoping for something interesting.
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aoleg
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: Berlin, DE
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Just purchased this one. Hoping for something interesting.
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Interesting rendering and nice sharpness for sure. A deep hood is a must as it's quite prone to flare; otherwise it has good contrast and very nice colors. It's a good one for sure _________________ List of lenses |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
It's not a bad lens, but I found it long on a crop so sold it. Plus I had just bought a Tamron 90 which was sharper. A good lens and I would get another if I had a P6 mount camera. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Martin: How do you mean "long on a crop"? I'm trying to reconcile that comment with you having purchased a 90mm.
I am a big fan of sharp lenses, but more recently I have begun to appreciate total image quality more. I'm beginning to see things in lenses that I hadn't noticed so well when just focusing on sharpness. I appreciate bokeh more - the more unusual the better. Color rendition and the way whites aren't blown out by some lenses is something I also appreciate. I think it was my recent purchases of Komura and Meyer lenses that brought my attention to IQ. _________________ Regards,
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Here are some sample shots.
I like this lens very much.
http://forum.mflenses.com/volna-3-2-8-80mm-p6-t21793,highlight,volna3.html
Madamasu made some superb shots here :
http://forum.mflenses.com/volna-3-and-nikon-d700-t17656.html
some other samples :
http://forum.mflenses.com/volna-3-bouquet-t27622,highlight,volna3.html
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Thank you, Olivier, I appreciate seeing those images. How would you say the lens is different than others in that focal range? Any idea how it compares to the Jupiter-9? I'll have mine in about two weeks and will put it through some maneuvers. _________________ Regards,
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