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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Liquid Tape, where to get in EU? Reply with quote
I want to repair the small holes in the bellows of my Bessa RF. On another forum I have learned that this stuff is actually very good for repairing bellows: holes are filled but the material stays flexible.

But... I cannot seem to get this in The Netherlands. Any ideas, or ideas for other good solutions?

http://www.plastidip.com/inc/displayImage.php?src=liq_tape2.jpg&w=250&h=250

Last edited by Spotmatic on Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:06 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Try the hardware store - or electrical supply store - and look for 'liquid electrical tape'. Or a fabric store, for something similar.

Where I bought mine - an auto parts store. They called it "Black Silicone Adhesive Sealant" though I suspected a couple of other tubes were similar stuff. The Adhesive Sealant was the cheapest. It works fine.


PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Liquid Tape, where to get in EU? Reply with quote
Spotmatic wrote:
I want to repair the small holes in the bellows of my Bessa RF. On another forum I have learned that this stuff is actually very good for repairing bellows: holes are filled but the material stays flexible.

But... I cannot seem to get this in The Netherlands. Any ideas, or ideas for other good solutions?

http://www.plastidip.com/inc/displayImage.php?src=liq_tape2.jpg&w=250&h=250

Stay tuned. Tomorrow I'm going to try some homebrew magic that might work.


PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Peter
This stuff you speak of is used extensively for Marine electrical systems.
I have some that stays on the boat.
Try a Marine sundries and supply shop.
It does work quite well and stays very flexible.
When you find it buy a few extra small applicators.
The stuff is pretty messy as you can imagine


PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Micro Tools Europe : http://www.micro-tools.de/mm5/e_adhesives.htm. They're based in Germany. I did not buy anything from them yet so I can not testify about the quality of their service.
Item #10-1762-F should be what you're looking for.
Regards, Marty.


PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting and helpful replies, thank you all!

I'm certainly interested in Dave's solution Smile


PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spotmatic wrote:
Interesting and helpful replies, thank you all!

I'm certainly interested in Dave's solution Smile

Here it is Smile

The shutter on the Ihagee was full of pinholes along the lines of where the fabric had become creased. After making up some mixtures of PVA and black pigment I settled on a simple 50/50 mix. PVA is a building adhesive that is used to stabilise plaster surfaces prior to painting, also added to mortar, also a wood glue. The pigment was simply poster paint made up as a gel in a bottle and I haven't a clue what was in it but it was non-toxic.

My prior testing had established the 50/50 mix provided a good flexible coating and filler, without stiffening the paper I'd coated it with. So far, results are good, although I was careful to keep the applied mix off the side rails of the shutter and as soon as one curtain dried, I worked it many times back and forward to make sure there was no sticking.

It'll do in the meantime, until I can replace the shutter cloth with the proper stuff. The shutter times seem to be reasonably in line with the times on the side plate, but ancient springs inside probably contribute more to inaccuracies.

This PVA/paint mix may be suitable for patching bellows, especially if it's used to glue small pieces of cloth to the corners or over the holes. Try it and see.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry for going a little off tropic.

Would it be possible to use this to repair light leeks in shutter curtains?


PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Farside: looks like a good idea, certainly more economic than liquid tape.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers, Marty.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I found somewhere the advice to use black silicone windshield sealant for automobiles. I used it for my Hapo 10 (Balda 6x9, 1934/1935) and it works for more than two years now . No day to day use ofcourse. Auto supplies shop.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lahnet wrote:
Sorry for going a little off tropic.

Would it be possible to use this to repair light leeks in shutter curtains?

That's exactly what I used it for - but I don't know how much I'd be willing to risk a more valuable camera. The Ihagee shutter curtains are huge (9x12cm + ), relatively bomb-proof and there's plenty of room to work on them or strip them out if unsuccessful. I'd certainly give it a go on some cheap 35mm camera with pinholed curtains, just for practice, before trying it on something more expensive.
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