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Attila
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: How to increase popularity of film |
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Attila wrote:
What do you think what we able to do to increase popularity of film ? I found in landscape photography film is still better than any DSLR and we are in 24h in my opinion to try to save this technology. If we lost no more fun with old cameras any more. I think old lenses on right way now this forum and similar ones helped a lot for them in past years. I wish to see same improvements on films too. _________________ -------------------------------
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
I think that in the case of film, they might be so far along on improvement over the last 40 years or more, that they won't be improving much more? However...I know that things can seem as "improved" as possible, and then along comes something better! _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I thought how we can increase number of film users. _________________ -------------------------------
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I thought how we can increase number of film users. |
I see. I'm thinking that it would take a LOT of time on an individual level to "recruit" more people into film's virtues.
Hopefully, on a more gloabal approach, places like here and photo.net and APUG and other film-friendly sites is the best that could be done. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Knowing for having experienced myself, what great fun is to develop and print at home, I think that the best move would be to create a Darkroom forum, where to teach how to develop and print at home, make a FAQ and offer advice on the equpiment, show the prints that we make, and show that old cameras can be used to make perfect large prints. It will be useful to also provide the photos of the old cameras and lenses used.
Another possible forum to push film use is a Slideshow Gallery, where to post images obtained only with colour slides, and preferably as a series, that is, like when you load a set of slides in the projector.
Every gallery will have to specify which film was used, which camera and lens, and provide a photo of the camera and lens used. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Over at the Pentax forum, we've recruited or re-upped several film photographers, simply by having more fun than anyone else, in their film SLR section.
The thing is, it has to be fun and broad enough to encompass the sticklers for technical perfection at one end, and the lookit how cool the crappy film artifacts are crowd at the other.
As we all know from personal experience, the enthusiasm of others is infectious and reinforces our baser obsessions _________________ -Jussi
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hexi
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
I've seen through numerous forums that some people using digital , and have never used film before, like the rendition of the "old" cameras.
And more unpredictable is that some people that have tried digital, are disseapointed and buy film camera and after would develop/print their film by themselves, which is a better choice cause nowadays labs are scarce and have no interest in doing this, their users are 90% digital.
Besides quality is low and prices are very high. You can easily develop film at home having same results that a lab ( in C41 at least ), as for b&w you can control your images, by going in developing times, pushing the film etc.
A developing sub forum, would be a very good idea. _________________ Happy owner and user of :
SLR's > Contax Aria - RX
DSLR > Canon 5D
Lenses : C/Y Planar 1.4/50 - Distagon 2.8/35 - Planar 1.4/85
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
+1 with the developing subforum idea! _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
First it was LBA very quickly supplanted by CBA... Now I'll get DBA _________________ -Jussi
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Print Photographica
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
I think developing forum and others are important, but more important is an individual 'Film Only Gallery' topic with oversized images allowed. Artworks, testphotos etc. welcome but camera type, lens, filmtype, scanner type info required. _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Developing your own film is perhaps the best way.
I juat have realized again how expensive it is to have films developed and scanned on CD by a lab.
If I had used only film in St. Petersburg, I would have paid about €100,- only for develping and scanning costs!! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Why only "developing" forum?
Let's make it a "Darkroom" forum that will cover developing and printing.
Developing is only half of the story.
You fully enjoy film in two cases in my opinion:
1) when you have your slides show projected on the wall
2) when you are printing your own negatives.
- _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I agree about above Orio please make it, Darkroom, Slideshow gallery etc
Thank you guys for these great ideas! _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I agree about above Orio please make it, Darkroom, Slideshow gallery etc
Thank you guys for these great ideas! |
OK, I will reorganize to achieve a better functionality of the forum while giving Film a separate category to put it under evidence. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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NE CEDE MALIS AUDENTIOR ITO
Ferrania film is reborn! http://www.filmferrania.it/
Support the Ornano film chemicals company and help them survive!
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hexi
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: France
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Developing your own film is perhaps the best way. |
Damn yes it is ! besides you don't need much space, and the work you do is sometimes better that professional labs, i swear
equipment cost for a basic development kit is about 50€ chemicals included. i'm not good at maths , but this makes the development price very affordable, as with one bottle of developer you can make up to 20 film some even more, for color developing its even easier with the C41 kit ( about 20€ ) and you can do up to 16 films.
Easy and quick as you mix the chemicals just once, then its stocked. All you have to check is a adequate developer temperature : 38° 0.3 ° ~ but i've done at 39°.
Okay enough writing, way to go to the new forum _________________ Happy owner and user of :
SLR's > Contax Aria - RX
DSLR > Canon 5D
Lenses : C/Y Planar 1.4/50 - Distagon 2.8/35 - Planar 1.4/85
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sonnar85 |
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Xpres
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
Great idea - It surely will encourage some more converts to the darkside and others to revisit.
There's a crossover of course, film printed digitally and digital printed in the darkroom. You can make very nice platinum prints from inkjet 'negs' for example. _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
New forum layout simple EXCELLENT many thanks Orio! _________________ -------------------------------
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my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:21 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
Yes, excellent job, Orio x2.
Though nowadays I seldom shoot film, I still have more film cameras compared to digital. Film will always stay and a lot of us will stay with it too. _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
Zoom Sigma Zoom 28-85/3.5-4.5
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Yes, very very cool, x3, thank you! _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Knowing for having experienced myself, what great fun is to develop and print at home, I think that the best move would be to create a Darkroom forum, where to teach how to develop and print at home, make a FAQ and offer advice on the equpiment, show the prints that we make, and show that old cameras can be used to make perfect large prints. It will be useful to also provide the photos of the old cameras and lenses used.
Another possible forum to push film use is a Slideshow Gallery, where to post images obtained only with colour slides, and preferably as a series, that is, like when you load a set of slides in the projector.
Every gallery will have to specify which film was used, which camera and lens, and provide a photo of the camera and lens used. |
Excelent, once again.
But I think that the one of the problems is to convince to the users of digi cams only, why is useful to do largeprints. The images of digital cameras share by Internet, and with the large prints will do the same. Not stimulates to change or to add the film use.
The real reach of the virtues of the use of the film cannot be appraised suitably by Internet, since it does not replaceto the contemplation of the copy in paper in front of us.
It is a problem that appears difficult, in my way to see _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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spiralcity
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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spiralcity wrote:
I don’t think we should just relegate the film forum to slide images; print images should also be accepted and discussed. We should also discuss how to properly scan the slide and print images for maximum clarity.
Larger formats should also be discussed.
The problem with film is the added expense. In today’s economy this can be viewed as a huge drawback. _________________ Nikons : F4-EM-FG-FE2-FA-EL-FTN-N2020-N70-F Nikkorex
Fujica: ST605N-ST701-ST705-ST705W-ST801-ST901-AZ1-AX-3
Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
Pentax: ME-Soptmatic
Ricoh:XR6
Pentax- K10D
Lenses- M42's-Nikon F mount, Pentax PK
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hexi
Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1631 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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hexi wrote:
I'm not using digital, but i think that the expense is also done when you're post processing the images and recharge the batteries, in terms of energy costs. I can't compare , but it can be an issue.
Film shooting is something slow, and i like it, i like taking time for pictures . Now i shoot like 2 rolls a months , sometimes less , sometimes more. Besides you don't shoot at will, i've hesitated much time when being on the edge to press the trigger. The pleasure overtakes expense, besides i spent more in lenses and stuff ^.^ _________________ Happy owner and user of :
SLR's > Contax Aria - RX
DSLR > Canon 5D
Lenses : C/Y Planar 1.4/50 - Distagon 2.8/35 - Planar 1.4/85
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
spiralcity wrote: |
I don’t think we should just relegate the film forum to slide images; print images should also be accepted and discussed. We should also discuss how to properly scan the slide and print images for maximum clarity.
Larger formats should also be discussed.
The problem with film is the added expense. In today’s economy this can be viewed as a huge drawback. |
Film has expense right, but how much cheaper a film camera + film +processing cost than a good digital camera. Also how much money need for every day life ? A film + processing cost <= a cheap lunch . So not expensive at all. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Film has expense right, but how much cheaper a film camera + film +processing cost than a good digital camera. |
Well!! 100% agree.
Rino. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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spiralcity
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spiralcity wrote:
Attila wrote: |
spiralcity wrote: |
I don’t think we should just relegate the film forum to slide images; print images should also be accepted and discussed. We should also discuss how to properly scan the slide and print images for maximum clarity.
Larger formats should also be discussed.
The problem with film is the added expense. In today’s economy this can be viewed as a huge drawback. |
Film has expense right, but how much cheaper a film camera + film +processing cost than a good digital camera. Also how much money need for every day life ? A film + processing cost <= a cheap lunch . So not expensive at all. |
I'm all for the idea Attlia, but when we start talking chemicals, paper, bottles, measuring cups,clamps,ect, ect.The price JUMPS way up. This would only refer to the home development.
Processing a roll of 35mm is about 6.00 USD, so yes this is not bad. I shoot film quite often. Also purchasing an older film camera such as Chinon, Fujica and such can be rather cheap. So I do agree with that.
The problem is that many digital users are pampered with the view now concept. They also have memory cards that allow them to shoot thousands of images which they save to their computer for free.
No cost at all to them. Maybe a bit of energy, but that dosent add up to much.
It's very hard convincing these new shooter that film is a great format. I have been involved in many heated debates about film verse digital. These new guys just dont want to listen. Visit a few digital sites and mention film, you'll see what I mean.
Im all for the idea, I love film so I would like to see this added to the site.
Is it possible to network with other film friendly sites? Perhaps place such as APUG? It would be nice to have direct links to other supporters. _________________ Nikons : F4-EM-FG-FE2-FA-EL-FTN-N2020-N70-F Nikkorex
Fujica: ST605N-ST701-ST705-ST705W-ST801-ST901-AZ1-AX-3
Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
Pentax: ME-Soptmatic
Ricoh:XR6
Pentax- K10D
Lenses- M42's-Nikon F mount, Pentax PK
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