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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: What is your favourite portrait lens ? |
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Attila wrote:
My order is:
1) Pancolar 80mm f1.8 MC
Superb from every aspects, I can't imagine better lens.
2) Pentacon 135mm f2.8
Number one for portraits, "bokeh" monster perfect soft.
3) Helios-40 85mm f1.5 (Both version)
Superb optical quality , but a bit heavy.
4) CZJ Biometar 75mm f1.5 (Both version)
King of lenses , but too sharp for human portraits
5) Jupiter-9 85mm f2
Pretty unbeatable lens one of my favorite.
6) Nikkor-H 85mm f1.8
Was one of my dream lens,but now I have Pancolars and Biotars ...
7) Pentacon 100mm f2.8
Optically superb, mechanically pretty weak.
Meyer Primoplan 75mm f1.9
This is my latest lens I have not enough experience... _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: What is your favourite portrait lens ? |
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Ballu wrote:
Attila wrote: |
2) Pentacon 135mm f2.8
Number one for portraits, "bokeh" monster perfect soft.
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Which Pentacon.. with interchangeable mount (zebra)... _________________ -Ballu
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Pentax FA* 85mm f1.4 sound exciting can you show me some links ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
1) Helios-40-2 1.5/85
2) Summicron-R 90 2/90
3) Planar 1.4/85
4) Nikkor-H Auto 1.8/85
5) Nikkor AI 2.5/105
The jury is still out on the Planar 2/100 (I have not tried portraits yet) but I suspect it will rank very high.
I have left out 135mm lenses as they're not usually considered true portrait lenses.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I forgot to mention 105mm f2.5 Nikkor.
Pentacon 135mm f2.8 any variant is superb for portraits especially on Nikon , effective focal length will be lot shorter around 75-85mm. I beleive the best Pentacon is "zebra" with interchangeable end (Meyer-Orestegor), the latest MC version also a superb lens for portraits, difference is little. _________________ -------------------------------
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I forgot to mention 105mm f2.5 Nikkor.
Pentacon 135mm f2.8 any variant is superb for portraits especially on Nikon , effective focal length will be lot shorter around 75-85mm. I beleive the best Pentacon is "zebra" with interchangeable end (Meyer-Orestegor), the latest MC version also a superb lens for portraits, difference is little. |
How can be shorter than 135mm???
I just got my Pentacon 200mm f4 with M42 (interchangable) mount. Now I will be able to use my Pentacon 135mm f2.8 lens (had different mount). It took more than a month to reach from UK (to US). _________________ -Ballu
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Exceptional! On the third lights on his eyes wonderful! _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Last one also excellent, clearly show for a good portraits quality lens is the last one what really need. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
niblue wrote: |
I've also found that in the studio you can get good results with most lenses because it's only the centre sharpness that matters, plus you're often stopped down to F11-F16 anyway. This one was done with the Pentax 18-55 kit lens, which is a fairly poor lens generally. |
That's true, especially on small size prints. And I would add the flash to the picture (metaphorically!): all lenses used with flash (and with low ambient light) seem very sharp, or at least, much sharper than they would look in natural light. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
With the Olympus 4/3 2x crop camera:
1. Helios 44-2
2. J37A
3. Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8 (I'm hoping!)
The Trioplan may become my all time favorite portrait lens, especially
in the right setting, shooting wide open, or perhaps stopped-down a
little bit.
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Very difficult question. I prefer all my lenses from 50 to 85 (80-135 FF)
I really cannot order them. _________________ T* |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
niblue wrote: |
True. Do you think that's due to the contrast that the flash provides, or because the flash stopping the action means there is no camera shake? |
It's certainly due to the flash light increasing the microcontrast.
You can shoot at 1/2000 in normal light on a tripod and never come even close to that crispness. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Borges
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 646 Location: Moers, Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Borges wrote:
Helios-40-2 1.5/85 - what else?
Michael _________________ list of lenses:
Helios 44 (many different versions), Jupiter-9 , Jupiter 21M, Jupiter 37AM, Mir-1W, Mir-1V, Mir-10A, Mir-47M, Zenitar Fisheye, Tair 11-2, Industar 50-2 and a few more ...
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Jupiter-9 ! I can't make difference between them in portrait action, both are just superb _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
Don't makes me cry !!!
I can't wait no more for my J-9 & J-37AM to arrive and still hunting for a so near to my hands H-40-2...
Actually I like Helios-44-2 for portraits. _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
J-9 and J-37AM I believe your best purchase in your life at least was in mine. _________________ -------------------------------
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Nikkor 85/2 AI
Nikkor 105/2.5 AIS
Nikkor 105/1.8 AIS
Maybe I will try the Pentacon route after all this dialogue
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Your lenses are unbeatable Patrick ,but nice to try a different lines. I love Pentacon 135mm because soft enough to hide skin problem and bokeh simple amazing and !? very cheap I have at least 10 copies from this lens. Same story than Industar-50 I can't left them in the shop , because price still so cheap around 20-30 USD. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
A couple snapshot portraits that I took with the Summicron-R 90 wide open, after the sunset, with almost non-existent available light. The ISO was high so I had to denoize and this subtracted further detail.
Early members have already seen these, but maybe newer members have not.
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
WoW! This is a Leica ! Superb! _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio, I never get tired of seeing these two shots! The colors, the focus,
just stunning!
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I agree with Bill! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
Those pictures are stunning Orio ! Perfect DOF, sharpness and colors! _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks guys!
Both images (especially the second) are crops from larger originals. It is not common of all lenses to do this kind of heavy crop and still have useable portions. This is one of the factors (the ability to crop from a 35mm frame) that can really justify the price of a lens in the 135 format.
Medium format users are of course much more used to cropping, because the large size allows. But for 135 format, a lens detailed enough to allow for serious cropping is a real advantage factor especially for those who make money from photography.
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patrickh
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:17 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
@ Attila
I think my next exploration is going to be pentacons, since it seems I shall be able to keep the infinity focussing.
@Orio
Leica is a byword for anyone who has taken photography at all seriously. Your photos do justice to the legend.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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