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Flor27
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Flor27 wrote:
Here is an "action shoot" portrait, JPEG straight out of the camera, no post-treatement, just resized, EXIF still available :
To my sadness, the light was very low, and I shot at f/2 so DOF is too short on the face... anyway I like the colors, bokeh, contrasts and details that this old lens can provide if not in direct light (or so much ghost & flares occurs).
My Helios-44 lenses are all over scratched but I can't notice any effect on resulting pictures.
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Orio wrote:
Excellent!!
This photo is a good example of the atmosphere that old lenses can provide and today's aseptic lenses always fail at.
Long live the Helios!
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patrickh wrote:
I think the short DOF actually helps the portrait, and the OOF is so smooth. This looks like a lens for the short list.
patrickh
BTW - Lovely model
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Jesito wrote:
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I think the short DOF actually helps the portrait, and the OOF is so smooth. This looks like a lens for the short list.
patrickh
BTW - Lovely model |
Yes, you're rigth, even when I have always been told about the need of having both eyes in focus for a proper portrait... (That's just a rule  ).
I like this shot!
Best regards,
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:37 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Very nice atmosphere, very good for F2. I think mine is softer wide open but I have to try more.
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| JPEG straight out of the camera |
standard jpeg have already contrast enhanced and quite a lot sharpening.
Try to make a profile with neutral color and 0 sharpening if you want to see what the lens can do.
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Flor27
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
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Very nice atmosphere, very good for F2. I think mine is softer wide open but I have to try more.
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standard jpeg have already contrast enhanced and quite a lot sharpening.
Try to make a profile with neutral color and 0 sharpening if you want to see what the lens can do. |
The "'Parameter 3" profile I've used for that pic has all parameters set to 0
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Attila wrote:
Nice capture!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Tu as męme mis ton téléphone dans l'exif. Si quelqu'un trouve ton canon il pourra te joindre 
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Flor27
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Flor27 wrote:
Sait-on jamais, on croise parfois d'honnętes gens sur la planęte...
et au pire si je le perds ou me le fait piquer, je peux essayer de retrouver sa trace sur les sites de vente en ligne en demandant une image échantillon...
P.S: tu est d'oů ?
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LucisPictor wrote:
Both are really nice, the shot and the lady (if you don't mind me saying that).
The Helios-44-series are almost always very recommendable and you can get them for almost nothing!
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peterqd wrote:
Parfait! You've caught a beautiful expression on her face. The density of the colours is classic Russian |
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patrickh wrote:
Flor
ce n'est que le plupart des gens qui sont honnetes, pas tous.
But that picture is lovely - really
patrickh
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Richard_D wrote:
Very nice shot. Now why did I sell my Zenith 12xp and lenses...?  |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
Thanks for all your comments.
I have some more portraits to publish, but I don't like them as this one.
Anyway, here is my daughter, still with this dirty Helios and some extension tube (which I don't remember the lengh) :
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Attila wrote:
Wow! Perfect capture !
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Super Tak wrote:
Beautiful!
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Borges wrote:
I like the narrow DOF of the first picture - and the purity of colors and form of the second one. Wonderful!
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Flor27 wrote:
Thank's Michael. My Helios-44-2 copy, while not in its best shape, is very sharp even wide open.
I really like this lens results and felling when I use it, it still attached all day long on my 350D as standard kit lens - I will replace the "Canon" word in front of my dSLR by Zenit
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patrickh wrote:
Florent
from your shooting style and camera, may I recommend you try out the nikkor 105/2.5? It is still not too badly priced given its quality and I believe Nikon sold a load of them, so they are frequently found on the market. It is truly one of the great portrait lenses and I have seen great results with it from the Canon
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Flor27 wrote:
Hi Patrick,
Today I won 2 jupiter-9 on eBay, so I guess they will fit my needs for portraiture Thanks for the tip, but Nikkor lenses are often out of my budget...
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Flor27 wrote:
Another action portrait today, with this time some little works in post-prod : B & W + contrast + sharpening
EOS 350D + Helios-44-2 @f2.8
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| Flor27 wrote: |
Thanks for all your comments.
I have some more portraits to publish, but I don't like them as this one.
Anyway, here is my daughter, still with this dirty Helios and some extension tube (which I don't remember the lengh) :
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Orio wrote:
Very nice Flor
May I ask you what place did you take this action portrait, and the one of the woman beginning of the trend? I am curious.
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Attila wrote:
Nice capture! A non AI Nikkor 105mm f2.5 many times going on low price.
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Katastrofo wrote:
Excellent capture, Flor! You got lucky, just kidding. 
Really nice results for f2.8!
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