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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Bokeh of modern day lenses Reply with quote
Why don't we post in this thread some samples of what we think are the modern day lenses (by modern day I mean from the 50s on) with the best bokeh?

I begin with a sample from my Super Multi-Coated Takumar 1.4/50:



I think it handled this difficult scene brilliantly, although we are still distant from the total smoothness of lenses such as Veijo's pre-war Radionar.

Come on, post your samples!


PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK, tough guy, I kinda like this one:



Chinon 50/1.7 shot at f2.8

Bill


PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey, Orio, cool avatar! Smile

I'm surprised nobody else has posted to this thread, especially Attila,
Mr. Bokeh himself! Laughing

Bill


PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="katastrofo"] Hey, Orio, cool avatar! Smile

Thanks. It's artsy, the blur makes me look more intelligent and creative than I am Wink

katastrofo wrote:

I'm surprised nobody else has posted to this thread, especially Attila,
Mr. Bokeh himself! Laughing
Bill


Me too, actually.
I will have to fill in with some other lenses.


PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
katastrofo wrote:
I'm surprised nobody else has posted to this thread


This is the only suitable one I have at present. Taken with a cheapo Pentacon 1.8/50 electric wide open, 1/125th at ISO 200. The background is actually the tall hedge on the other side of the road opposite my house - in winter with no greenery.



PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mr. Bokeh Shocked Thank you Bill!

Ok, let see some one.

Pentacon 135mm f/2.8 zebra

Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 80mm f/2.8 M42 alu

Konishiroku Hexanon 100mm f/2.8

Meyer-Orestegor 200mm f/4

Nikon Nikkor 300mm f/4.5 AI

Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 MC

Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 Zebra


PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tair-11-133mm f/2.8 M39



Steinheil München Quinar 135mm f/2.8 Exakta



Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar 55mm f/2



Micro Nikkor 55mm f/3.5


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
peterqd wrote:
katastrofo wrote:
I'm surprised nobody else has posted to this thread


This is the only suitable one I have at present. Taken with a cheapo Pentacon 1.8/50 electric wide open, 1/125th at ISO 200. The background is actually the tall hedge on the other side of the road opposite my house - in winter with no greenery.


Peter, that is, well, quite exquisite! Very dreamlike, luv it. Wink

Bill


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila,
I like 1,2,7,8,9,10,11! Some of them need the smaller logo on them Wink Thanks for sharing! Smile

Bill


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Sakura Festival singers Reply with quote


Mamiya 80mm 645 lens, Canon 30D

Jules


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You have right Bill this logo is ok for full size resolution , but too big for this small one, it was automatically resized and I had no time to change to the right one.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: Sakura Festival singers Reply with quote
lulalake wrote:

Mamiya 80mm 645 lens, Canon 30D
Jules


B * E * A * U * T * I * F * U * L !!!!!!!

Please tell us more about this fantastic image! Where/when was it taken?

We have a calendar contest going on and I would like if you could submit this one and other beautiful pictures that you have - detail in the News forum.

So you've been using a Mamyia lens on this one - how does it attach to your D30, is there a Mamyia-EOS dedicated adapter that I don't know of? Or did you use and Hasselblad or Pentacon6 adapter?


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
katastrofo wrote:
Peter, that is, well, quite exquisite! Very dreamlike, luv it. Wink

Bill


OK OK Smile Thanks for the kind words. I do actually like the way the background colour turned out, sort of grey/khaki. (I didn't notice the dead black aphids till later!!)


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pentacon 135 @ f2.8


Flektogon 35mm


Oly 50 1.4 prob @ f2 or 4


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
And this is realy modern.
The pentax kitlens wide open at 55mm (5.6).
Strange to see a modern lens improve if you treath it like an old MF.

Yhe iso was switched on 800 so ther is some noise.

Guido




PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I love this combination of colours Guido. Is it an early Hydrangea flower?

This thread has some beautiful examples of how an out-of-focus lens can mix backround colours.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In fact its a good example what you kan reach with a modern cheap kitlens. Down bellow: the same situation but with the Meyer oreston 50mm

As you can see the meyer is better anyway.



to have a comparison the meyer is also at 5.6.

The flower is from a bush called "Viburnum opulus" sorry I don't know the english name.

Guido


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jigt wrote:

The flower is from a bush called "Viburnum opulus" sorry I don't know the english name.
Guido


I think our fellow Englishmen call it "Snowball".


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The garden plant "snowbal" is indeed a viburnum. This is the wild version, I have my garden full with wild and native plants.

And because of this also full with insects, and thats the reason we have so many birds and thats .... Sorry the heat is coocking my brain..


Guido


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Sakura Festival singers Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
lulalake wrote:

Mamiya 80mm 645 lens, Canon 30D
Jules


B * E * A * U * T * I * F * U * L !!!!!!!

Please tell us more about this fantastic image! Where/when was it taken?

We have a calendar contest going on and I would like if you could submit this one and other beautiful pictures that you have - detail in the News forum.

So you've been using a Mamyia lens on this one - how does it attach to your D30, is there a Mamyia-EOS dedicated adapter that I don't know of? Or did you use and Hasselblad or Pentacon6 adapter?


Thank you so very much Orio,

The image was taken last week and is of a chorus group of Japanese and Western college students singing Japanese folk songs. It was taken during the local "Sakura" festival, the traditional Japanese Cherry Blossom festival.

I live in the small Texas college town of San Marcos where there are a number of exchange students from Japan. The Students have imported festival that celebrates, along with the blooming of the cherry blossoms, all of Japanese culture in which they have shows, exhibits, dances, martial art demos, all things Japanese, and many, many photo opportunities.

Yes, there adapters which allow one to use Mamiya 645 lenses on many different bodies. They are around 80USD, and are very well made. Here's the eBay URL for the adapters

http://tinyurl.com/2bm75t

The Mamiya AFD lenses have a problem as the aperture is controlled automatically and there is no manual aperture control for these lenses, but all the manual lenses work great so there is now a whole family of lenses available for camera bodies that were previously unavailable.

I got the Mamiya 80mm 645 manual lens for this shot for about 75USD on eBay and I feel it is one of the, if not the best lens 80mm lens I have, but I like Mamiya lenses.

Cheers and thanks for starting this thread. There is some great stuff here!

Jules


PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for the info Jules. I hope to see more pictures of these events from you.
And thanks about the EOS-Mamiya adapter link - wow, is there anything that CAN'T be attached to an EOS camera? I need to try attaching my bread toaster, Laughing !!!


PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Let me revive this thread - some older samples:


S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4

my beloved, typical oil-like bokeh








DS-M Yashinon 50/1.4

nice smooth (sometimes creamy) bokeh, but prone to axial CA








eMC Flektogon 35/2.4

good for wide angle lens






Vivitar VMC Series 1 28/1.9 (Tokina)

not bad, but OOF lights in back-light are ring-shaped






Vivitar 28/2.8 (Komine)

smoother and OOF lights are softer than on Series 1








eMC Pancolar 80/1.8

very smooth and still, sometimes a bit of axial CA appears








Helios 40-2 85/1.5

very smooth and creamy, but OOF lights esp. in back-light creates ovoid rings and sometimes "explosive" effect





PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great samples!!


PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does Helios-40 count? Isn't it old design?



PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Mr. Bokeh Shocked Thank you Bill!

Ok, let see some one.

Pentacon 135mm f/2.8 zebra

Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 80mm f/2.8 M42 alu

Konishiroku Hexanon 100mm f/2.8

Meyer-Orestegor 200mm f/4

Nikon Nikkor 300mm f/4.5 AI

Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 MC

Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 Zebra


GREAT PHOTOS!
I know everyone likes to talk about the technical aspects of good and bad Bokeh, but I feel the artistic value is seen in the eye of the beholder and the technical jargon can be tossed out the window.

In my opinion the Nikon 300mm was the worst of the Bokeh pics. I see too many straight lines in the Bokeh. This isnt pleasing to my eye.
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