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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:


Assembler programmer Shocked I don't know many you are second one what I ever met!


Here's the third Smile although not mainframes, only simple microcontrollers Embarassed


PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

der_lockere wrote:
Attila wrote:


Assembler programmer Shocked I don't know many you are second one what I ever met!


Here's the third Smile although not mainframes, only simple microcontrollers Embarassed


Wow! Super cool! Good to know who can help ! Wink


PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today is for M42 and some odd lenses, I did not include Flektogons and
Pancolars since I did not find their bokeh shots. Maybe in Prakticars
bokeh shots,,,, M42 group first.

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Others
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M42-
95 & 96 Carl Zeiss Ultron (M42, concave first element) is has characteristic botchy bokeh
97 & 98 Auto Rikenon 55/1.4 has typical Tomioka's common trait in bokeh (you can find it in ML lenses)
99 & 100 Macro Takumar 50/4 1:1 good lens but not used much
101 & 102 SMC Takumar 50/1.4 (most recent version, used own older one given to a friend) very nice lens

Other-
103 & 104 Tamron macro 52B(?) 90/2.5 sharp and creamy bokeh
105 & 106 Jupitor 3 L-mount, I personally really like this lens 105. has a bit of back focus (fixed later)
107 & 108 M-Hexanon 50/1.2 (My forth/fifth expensive lens!) very nice lens (should be Very Happy)
109 & 110 Kiron macro 105/2.8 I do not have to comment, but haven't used much.
111 & 112 KERN Macro Switar 50/1.9 APO lens, sharp and nice colour rendition, SWITAR 50/1.8 has more 3D imression


PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here comes Cosina's lenses in random order. The most of modern Cosina lenses are above
average performers, some are pretty good really.

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113 & 114 CV APO-Lanthar 90/3.5 there is SLR mount lens used to be available
115 & 116 Auto-Topcor 58/1.4 Pretty good lens, no fault to find sort of (remake of old Topcon Topcor 58/1.4) this M42 mount!
117 & 118 CV Color-Heliar 75/2.5 Very good lens (SLR mount is available too)
119 & 120 CV Color-Skopar 28/3.5 petit but sharp lens
121 & 122 CV Nokton 35/1.2 Cosina's all out effort lens, superb optics and fastest 35mm for RF
123 & 124 CV Nokton 50/1.5 it is fairly good lens, colour rendition is very good (I like it, but not used too much)
125 & 126 CV Nokton Classic 35/1.4 new lens (mine is MC)
127 & 128 CV Snap-Shot-Skopar 25/4 hard to make it bokeh (no RF coupling)
129 & 130 CV Super-Wide-Heliar 15/4.5 Do not regard as poorman's Hologon 15mm, it is a a good lens.
131 & 132 CV Ultron 28/1.9 very good lens, bettered by new Ultron 28/2?
133 & 134 CV Ultron 35/1.7 very good lens too, very sharp also (not too large)
135 & 136 CV Ultron 40/2 OM-mount lens, good one but has barrel distortion (a little too much for me)

That's all for today. The next and last is by Prakticars (me calls my collection).


PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the last installment for this bokeh of the modern lenses.
today is for Prakticars (you heard Praktica-Bayonet mount camera,
these are only workable/mountable for this camera such as B200, BC-1).

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137 & 138 20/2.8 (Flektogon 20mm) no comment necessary
139 & 140 24/2.4 It has a floating mechanism for near focus (very rare)
141 & 142 28/2.8 Pretty good lens IMO
143 & 144 35/2.4 (Flektogon 35mm) no comment necessary
145 & 146 50/1.4 Type I this lens has linage from Pancolar 55/1.4 M42 mount (w Pentacon Super)
147 & 148 50/1.4 Type II Newer design
149 & 150 50/1.8 Type I (Pancolar 50mm) no comment necessary
151 ........ 50/1.8 Type II Penatcon resurrected Oreston 50/1.8 to save cost, this has very beautiful metallic blue coating
152 ........ 50/1.8 Type III same as II above, used to come with PRAKTICA camera as a body cap, but good lens though
153 & 154 50/2.4 Pancake type Mmmm lens
155 & 156 50/2.8 Tessar Only multi-coated Tessar from CZJ, beautiful coating (rare lens)
157 & 158 55/2.8 Macro lens
159 & 160 80/1.8 (Pancolar 80mm) no comment necessary except this has shorter mfd
161 & 162 135/2.8 Pentacon no comment
163 ........ 135/3.5 (Sonnar) no comment
164 & 165 200/2.8 (Sonnar) This is also a rare lens.
166 & 167 35-70/2.7-3.5 Zoom w macro at 70mm end Zoom lens even factory people did not know its existence
168 & 169 80-200/4 Zoom Ditto, this lens is very similar to C/Y 80-200/4 lens, which has one more element

That is all from me.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pentacon 135/2.8 wide open.

The background is a scruffy hedge against a grey sidewalk. I don't know any other lens that will render that background so smoothly, although I did recently pick up a 210mm Rodenstock Eurynar LF lens that has possibilities.



PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helios 40-1. I know that this lens can render a very jittery bokeh when the highlights are distinct, but when it is good it can be very, very good.





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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many, many beautiful samples ! Thank you so much! I love all of them!

Welcome Scribo! Thank you for joining us!


PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

58mm Zeiss Biotar



PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! This Biotar shoot is one of the best what I seen with this lens! Congrats!


PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scribo wrote:
58mm Zeiss Biotar



Awesome. Which f-number?


PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Attila. Nice to see you again.

This one is a little different, a seven-inch f/3.7 Petzval lens on 4x5. Lots of edge distortion with this very old lens.

The background of #1 is a brick wall. The pattern of the bricks almost vanishes.

#2 was cropped for composition purposes, but you can still get a sense of the distortion.









PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no-X wrote:
Scribo wrote:
58mm Zeiss Biotar



Awesome. Which f-number?


I wish I could remember. It was on a short extension tube, so from the size of the in-focus area I must have stopped it down somewhat.

f/4 would be my guess. Maybe 5.6.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Attile about Biotar's bokeh,
this lens has "a hard to describe" bokeh in a mid distance. Laughing

Oh yeah. Welcome to MFlenses, Scribo.


PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scribo wrote:
Thanks, Attila. Nice to see you again.

This one is a little different, a seven-inch f/3.7 Petzval lens on 4x5. Lots of edge distortion with this very old lens.

The background of #1 is a brick wall. The pattern of the bricks almost vanishes.

#2 was cropped for composition purposes, but you can still get a sense of the distortion.





Yeah, now I remember Wink

Interesting pictures!






PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scribo - what an incredible 3d effect Shocked
By the way, I like this topic. Great bokeh encyclopaedia!


PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maxim wrote:
Scribo - what an incredible 3d effect Shocked
By the way, I like this topic. Great bokeh encyclopaedia!


Many old lenses have that 3D effect. I wonder if it has something to do with air spacing between lens elements.

Here's another favorite, an 18 cm/4.5 Hugo Meyer Aristostigmat, shot wide open. It's not as apparent here, but on a print, the front part of the face jumps off the page.

The light-color background is lapped wood siding. The details completely dissolve.

If I had to pick a bokeh champ among makers, it would be Meyer. This lens, the 135 Pentacon, the 100 and 135 Trioplans, the 35/4.5 Primagon are all superb in that respect. And that's just the few that I have used.



PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I had to pick a bokeh champ among makers, it would be Meyer. This lens, the 135 Pentacon, the 100 and 135 Trioplans, the 35/4.5 Primagon are all superb in that respect. And that's just the few that I have used.


Absolutely!


PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. I tried only Telefogar 90/3.5 and Telemegor 180/5.5 and both of them had very good bokeh (the 90/3.5 seems to be slightly better than 180/5.5). I also like Primoplan 58/1.9 results, which I saw in many threads on this forum.