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jibbonpoint
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jibbonpoint wrote:
I didn't offer the Soligor as a superior lens to the Leica, I mentioned it because Timo was saying that's the Leica was expensive (his point no2 in the original post & a subsequent post.)
I missed a Telyt 400 a few years ago; it was $400 & I couldn't fix it to the K10D at that time so I let it go.
Now, having seen the Soligor in all it's glory  I might mention that there is one identical to mine on the Australian e-bay for $A15. A few days to go so it will probably go for more than that.
What is the difference in quality & how often do you use this focal length? I've actually bought a Tamron 500 mirror to take pictures of people that I'm really scared of and I can't remember when I used it or the Soligor last. 
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
WOW! I never seen of this lens in this condition!!
Congrats!
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
Beautiful too! time to see a well used copy for usage, these are too good to use them
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
I am glad we have same thinking ...
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Abbazz
Joined: 23 Jun 2007
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Abbazz wrote:
| dickb wrote: |
| FYI, the Noflexar-T 400/5.6 is a triplet. |
In fact, the name for the triplet lens is T-Noflexar. But I was referring to the plain Noflexar (see my post).
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| The older version of the Leitz Telyt, used with the Televit focus system, is a 560mm f/5.6. Fairly fast for a 560mm I'd say. It doesn't have quite the optical reputation of the 560/6.8 though. |
That's my point: a doublet is not very sharp when used at wide apertures. That's why you won't find a good 300/2.8 or 400/4 doublet lens.
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| These lenses have a large image circle, some people even use them on 6*6 medium format systems. So even 24*36 gets rid of most of the softer corners. |
Novoflex offered a specific range of lenses specially designed for 6x6 (240/5.6 and 500/5.6). The common Noflexar lens heads were not meant to provide optimal coverage for medium format. In fact, on my 400/5.6, the borders are notably soft when used on full 24x36 frame cameras.
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| I've never used the Leitz Telyt with a fixed R mount version, but I've got the Novoflex follow focus system and I've tested the Leitz Televit system. Both require some getting used to, but the Novoflex is far more user friendly in my view. And I've got both Leitz Telyt and Noflexar-T heads to go with this system, so I'm quite happy. I actually bought another set (Leitz 560/6.8 + Novoflex PiGriff) to get some more included accesories (PiStock, EF mount). Even for me, two 560/6.8s is a bit excessive, so I'll probably sell one again. |
I agree about the Novoflex follow focus being more user friendly. If you want to sell either lens, drop me a PM.
Cheers!
Abbazz
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dickb
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dickb wrote:
| Abbazz wrote: |
| dickb wrote: |
| FYI, the Noflexar-T 400/5.6 is a triplet. |
In fact, the name for the triplet lens is T-Noflexar. But I was referring to the plain Noflexar (see my post).
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You're right, I was too hasty typing. I do own a plain Noflexar that certainly isn't a doublet, the 35mm f/3.5, but that is quite a different animal.
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| The older version of the Leitz Telyt, used with the Televit focus system, is a 560mm f/5.6. Fairly fast for a 560mm I'd say. It doesn't have quite the optical reputation of the 560/6.8 though. |
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That's my point: a doublet is not very sharp when used at wide apertures. That's why you won't find a good 300/2.8 or 400/4 doublet lens.
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I understood your point to be that such fast lenses weren't made, not that they weren't very good.
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Novoflex offered a specific range of lenses specially designed for 6x6 (240/5.6 and 500/5.6). The common Noflexar lens heads were not meant to provide optimal coverage for medium format. In fact, on my 400/5.6, the borders are notably soft when used on full 24x36 frame cameras.
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Interesting to hear about the difference in image circle. Novoflex offers (used to offer?) modified follow focus mounts (PIstolenGRIFF) for several medium format systems: Hasselblad 2000 FC (HAPIGRIFF-C), Rolleiflex SL66 (ROLPIGRIFF-C), Mamiya 645 (MAMPIGRIFF 645-C) and Pentax 645 (TAXPIGRIFF 645-C). At this time the only lens heads on offer were the 400mm and 600mm lenses and the Leitz Telyt 560mm. So at least one of these heads was deemed good enough for 6x6 coverage.
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I agree about the Novoflex follow focus being more user friendly. If you want to sell either lens, drop me a PM.
Cheers!
Abbazz |
I'm not quite sure yet when or how I'll sell some of it but when I do, I'll let you know.
Cheers,
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Abbazz
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Abbazz wrote:
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| Interesting to hear about the difference in image circle. Novoflex offers (used to offer?) modified follow focus mounts (PIstolenGRIFF) for several medium format systems: Hasselblad 2000 FC (HAPIGRIFF-C), Rolleiflex SL66 (ROLPIGRIFF-C), Mamiya 645 (MAMPIGRIFF 645-C) and Pentax 645 (TAXPIGRIFF 645-C). At this time the only lens heads on offer were the 400mm and 600mm lenses and the Leitz Telyt 560mm. So at least one of these heads was deemed good enough for 6x6 coverage. |
Dick,
Here's a link the full manual for 1972 Novoflex Follow Focus lenses kindly provided by Yohei Suzukawa's on his website:
http://yandr.50megs.com/novo/novo1/novo1.htm
As you can see on the page 15 of this manual, there are two distinct lines of lens heads: the 280/5.6, 400/5.6 and 640/9 for 24x36 cameras, as well as the 240/5.6 and 500/5.6 for 6x6 cameras. The follow focus grip and rear mounts were also different between those two lines. Here's the relevant page of the manual (linked from Yohei Suzukawa's website):
Cheers!
Abbazz
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ChrisLilley
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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But LEICA is, well, is LEICA.
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Less fanboy please  , and more actual samples or meaningful discussion.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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ChrisLilley
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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The AI lens is not at all bad cosmetically (brilliant optically) but a bit of a clunker - a bit rattly with very free focussing and it was cheap, so it's not a tragedy!
Except that I just noticed it's not actually an 'AI' lens...!! |
Right, neither of these are AI lenses.
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| ChrisLilley wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
But LEICA is, well, is LEICA.
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Less fanboy please , and more actual samples or meaningful discussion. |
Hi.
Let me say LEICA IS LEICA. It's that I want to say and I say that. If you can't find the sense to my words I'm sorry, it's your problem and not mine.
Who are you to describe my words as nonsignificant discussion?
With your attitude I can describe your words as stupid but my education don't let me to do this.
No dictatorial attitudes, please.
Rino.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Rusty
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Rusty wrote:
Hi Timo
Ihave a more recent soligor 400 mm but i think the optical construction would be the same and who made it (Luis will know ? )
I find it very sharp and absolute value for money (they normally come cheap)
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Hi Rusty,
Yes, I've seen that one. I don't have it though. I don't know who made it.
It is very similar in some stylistic ways to the Soligor/Vivitar 400/6.3 Automatic T4 lens, which I have, and which I find quite disappointing. That one is a Tokina.
I have the 450/8 preset in this style (like yours), and that one is absolutely a bad lens.
You roll the dice with these things.
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ChrisLilley
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
| ChrisLilley wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
But LEICA is, well, is LEICA.
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Less fanboy please , and more actual samples or meaningful discussion. |
Let me say LEICA IS LEICA. It's that I want to say and I say that. |
Sure, feel free to repeat a brand name all you like, if such tautological utterances makes you happy.
But when you say, for example
| estudleon wrote: |
IT'S LEICA, please, no more words. |
Then you seem to place one brand as being 100% positive, no possible flaws, and more importantly to stifle all discussion to the contrary. I can't accept that.
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Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
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Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:29 am Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
| ChrisLilley wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
| ChrisLilley wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
But LEICA is, well, is LEICA.
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Less fanboy please , and more actual samples or meaningful discussion. |
Let me say LEICA IS LEICA. It's that I want to say and I say that. |
Sure, feel free to repeat a brand name all you like, if such tautological utterances makes you happy. |
Thanks, I'm very happy. I can say LEICA is LEICA now.
Ah..thanks again, I can feel free.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| ChrisLilley wrote: |
But when you say, for example
| estudleon wrote: |
IT'S LEICA, please, no more words. |
Then you seem to place one brand as being 100% positive, no possible flaws, and more importantly to stifle all discussion to the contrary. I can't accept that. |
You put in my mouth words that I didn't say.
YOU understand that "It's Leica, pleaso no more words", is equal to "Then you seem to place one brand as being 100% positive, no possible flaws".
Your interpretation is your problem, not mine.
I believe that before interpreting what I did not say, you must have consulted on the reach of my affirmation.
I believe that such hurry done by earth any possibility of one adapted discussion
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Xpres
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Xpres wrote:
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Hi Timo
Ihave a more recent soligor 400 mm but i think the optical construction would be the same and who made it (Luis will know ? )
I find it very sharp and absolute value for money (they normally come cheap)
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I had one of these when I was at school. I used it with a Zenit EM for shots at cricket matches. I thought it was pretty good then and only sold it a couple of years ago and got back what I paid for it... somebody rates it. Not sure who made it though.
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ChrisLilley
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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I believe that such hurry done by earth any possibility of one adapted discussion
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I see the words, but it doesn't seem to make a coherent sentence.
But thanks for lifting your "no more words" ban, I'm sure we all feel relieved now that we are once again allowed to discuss things on a discussion board .
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
| ChrisLilley wrote: |
| estudleon wrote: |
I believe that such hurry done by earth any possibility of one adapted discussion
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I see the words, but it doesn't seem to make a coherent sentence.
But thanks for lifting your "no more words" ban, I'm sure we all feel relieved now that we are once again allowed to discuss things on a discussion board . |
I already see. you began the question and wish to finish it. Acceptance.
I hope that the next time you ask my before understand in the wrong way.
Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
| Xpres wrote: |
| Rusty wrote: |
Hi Timo
Ihave a more recent soligor 400 mm but i think the optical construction would be the same and who made it (Luis will know ? )
I find it very sharp and absolute value for money (they normally come cheap)
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I had one of these when I was at school. I used it with a Zenit EM for shots at cricket matches. I thought it was pretty good then and only sold it a couple of years ago and got back what I paid for it... somebody rates it. Not sure who made it though. |
I have a 135/2.8 and 200/3.5 in that style by Soligor in M42 mount and presumed they were made by Tokina? Either way. they're both excellent 
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
200/3,5 Soligor, tokina made , is good.
Well . Is there, in this line, a 300 mm?
Rino
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
200/3,5 Soligor, tokina made , is good.
Well . Is there, in this line, a 300 mm?
Rino |
This 300 is on ebay??
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Thanks.
Rino
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
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Thanks.
Rino |
I've seena 350 in that line as well, and I've got a huge zoom that looks vrey similar as well. I'm presuming they are all made by the same company, but who knows? Luisalgeria at a guess
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
LUIIISS.....phone!!!
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Hi Shrek,
The 300mm you pictured -
Tokina. T4 mount on the Soligor version. Sold by everybody, @1968-1976. Very common. Nice lens, I have one in Sears brand -
http://forum.mflenses.com/a-lens-with-many-names-t6207,highlight,sears+300.html
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