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tobbsman
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: S.M.C. Takumar 85/1.8 - samples |
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tobbsman wrote:
This is my favourite lens at the moment, ... some shots of today.
Seems to be summer, autumn and winter same time.
1,4,5 are stiched.
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chaotic scene with two alpine maple-trees (some hundred years old):
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Cheers
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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The mushroom picture is lovely _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
I love #1 and #3, particularly white back ground of #1 is surprise. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Thanks Orio and Koji !
The mushroom was the biggest which I've seen so far. Unfortunately the sice of the mushroom doesn't really come through on the photograph ...
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Laurence
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Tobias, you know how to get the most from this fine lens!
The first image with the leaves is almost graphical in rendition.
Simply beautiful in its simplicity, and the colors and clarity are beyond
reproach. An OUTSTANDING lens and an OUTSTANDING photograph.
The last image is particularly appealing to me. I LOVE any subalpine
images dealing with the various ecotones that are inherent to those
mid-elevation biomes. The image is wonderful in its panoramic
splendor, and shows a true picture of the lay of the land.
The maples! Wow! They look like anomalies in an area of alpine
conifers! Do you happen to know the taxonomy of these fine maples?
Are they of species Alnus?
I suppose this area is still not high enough in elevation to support Larch
trees? Do you know the actual elevation at this scene?
Also, is that a road or a trail that bifurcates the image? I love the
perspective here, where you are a bit elevated above the scene that
you are shooting.
Simply GRAND work...
It looks to me like you live in a splendid place, full of
mountains, meadows, and hillsides - along with fantastic valleys. _________________
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
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Tobias, you know how to get the most from this fine lens!
The first image with the leaves is almost graphical in rendition. Shocked
Simply beautiful in its simplicity, and the colors and clarity are beyond
reproach. An OUTSTANDING lens and an OUTSTANDING photograph.
The last image is particularly appealing to me. I LOVE any subalpine
images dealing with the various ecotones that are inherent to those
mid-elevation biomes. The image is wonderful in its panoramic
splendor, and shows a true picture of the lay of the land.
The maples! Wow! They look like anomalies in an area of alpine
conifers! Do you happen to know the taxonomy of these fine maples?
Are they of species Alnus?
I suppose this area is still not high enough in elevation to support Larch
trees? Do you know the actual elevation at this scene?
Also, is that a road or a trail that bifurcates the image? I love the
perspective here, where you are a bit elevated above the scene that
you are shooting.
Simply GRAND work...
It looks to me like you live in a splendid place, full of
mountains, meadows, and hillsides - along with fantastic valleys. |
Thanks Laurence for your detalied comment !
About the the maple trees:
I went up there because I read that those 2 trees are under protection and special because of beeing that old. There's also a botanic path between this area with lots of explaination about the trees. I especially wanted to explore that. But the way was cut by a mountain stream due to lots of melt-water
So I can't tell anything about the maples ...
This area was on about 1550m, that's absolutely high enough for larch trees, there were plenty of larch trees on the other side.
Here's one more close-up from the oldest maple:
Cheers
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Laurence wrote: |
The maples! Wow! They look like anomalies in an area of alpine
conifers! Do you happen to know the taxonomy of these fine maples?
Are they of species Alnus? |
The genus Alnus is of the tree species called in English Alder.
The family is Betulaceae which means they are relatives of the Birch.
Maple species belong to the genus Acer which is one of the biggest (actually probably the biggest genus of trees). It is so big, that it belongs to a family of it's own (Aceraceae). _________________ Orio, Administrator
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16593 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Wonderful Tobias, love teh maples and esp. the mushroom (which reminds me of the long forst walks with my grandpa searching for edible ones man decades ago). _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
tobbsman wrote: |
So I can't tell anything about the maples ...
This area was on about 1550m, |
Given your location, and the altitude, and from what I can guess from the bark, I would say these may be exemplars of Acer pseudoplatanus, common English name: Mountain Maple. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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tobbsman
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
I made some internet research about those 2 trees:
You're very right Orio,
They are called "Bergahorn", so "mountain maple".
source:
http://www.salzburg.com/wiki/index.php/Naturdenkm%C3%A4ler
Cheers
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Laurence
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
EXCELLENT detective work, you guys! So it's Mountain Maple. I am happy
to see that they are protected, they look out of place with the conifers! _________________
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Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
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Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Laurence wrote: |
they look out of place with the conifers! |
They are, in fact. Normally maples grow in association with other broadleaves. On the mountains, typical association would be with Beech and Oak.
However keep in mind that differently from North America, most mountains in Europe have been heavily "anthropized" (I wonder if it's correct in English), meaning that the man heavily influenced the landscape.
So it's possible that that place originally was a spot of broadleaves, that were cut to make furniture or heating, and those two remained, and conifers gained the place around them. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Laurence
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Laurence wrote: |
they look out of place with the conifers! |
They are, in fact. Normally maples grow in association with other broadleaves. On the mountains, typical association would be with Beech and Oak.
However keep in mind that differently from North America, most mountains in Europe have been heavily "anthropized" (I wonder if it's correct in English), meaning that the man heavily influenced the landscape.
So it's possible that that place originally was a spot of broadleaves, that were cut to make furniture or heating, and those two remained, and conifers gained the place around them. |
I think the only root word I can think of is anthropomorphized,
which is "to ascribe human characteristics to a non-human object".
I see, regarding the concurrent species of Beech and Oak growing
along with the Mountain Maples. If this was, in fact, an earlier
broadleaf forest, it must have been magnificent!
On another note, I wonder if the "Larch" that is being referred to
for this European subalpine zone is similar to Tamarack
(larix laricina), found from the sea level swamps to the
highest timberline in North America, but mostly in the subalpine
levels (1000m - 1750m).
The larches at the very highest levels (3000m) in Washington
State are the Lyall's Larch (Larix Lyalii). They live beyond
1000 years at times.
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Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Laurence wrote: |
I see, regarding the concurrent species of Beech and Oak growing
along with the Mountain Maples. If this was, in fact, an earlier
broadleaf forest, it must have been magnificent! |
Such mixed broadleaf standings were very common on the Apennines and on the lower Alps. Deforestation hit them hard, but they still exist. There are some on the Apennines near where I live.
In the lower altitudes it's mostly Maples, Oaks and Linden. At middle altitudes the Linden gives room to the Beech, and sometimes Chestnut (the real Chestnut not the fake one).
The mixed broadleaf standings are typical of the low-middle altitude mountains. At high altitudes, usually Beech is the only broadleaf that can be found here,
alone or in mixed standings with conifers such as the European White Fir (Abies alba)
Laurence wrote: |
On another note, I wonder if the "Larch" that is being referred to
for this European subalpine zone is similar to Tamarack
(larix laricina), found from the sea level swamps to the
highest timberline in North America, but mostly in the subalpine
levels (1000m - 1750m). |
Yes, the Larix genus encompasses several species in the whole Northern Hemisphere. The most common European Larch is Larix decidua. There are also Asian and Japanese Larch species.
All the species of the Larch genus are deciduous, i.e. their leaves turn and finally fall.
The European Larch does not grow at sea level. It is very hard to see it below the 1000m level, except of course where it has been planted by man.
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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supahmario wrote:
nice work tobias!
@orio: didn't know that you are part-time ranger! _________________ EOS 5D, EOS 30
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
supahmario wrote: |
nice work tobias!
@orio: didn't know that you are part-time ranger! |
It's part of my job (knowing trees, not being a parttime ranger ) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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tobbsman
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:33 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Thanks Orio and Laurence for the interesting botanic informations.
Just wondering Orio, what's your profession ?
Cheers
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