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Uzay
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Uzay wrote:
Hi everybody,
I have a Planar 1.8/50 with 1017454SL serial number and i want to use it on my D700, is it possible with any adapters? Any info appreciated. Sorry for taking your time. |
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Keysersoze27
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Keysersoze27 wrote:
| taunusreiter wrote: |
Rumors say that in the 1970's the glass for the SL lenses was coming from Zeiss Oberkochen and then mounted in Braunschweig for complete lenses. But this can't be said for sure. |
Sorry for bumping up an old thread  but after finding this lens I think I can read on the front of the lens where the SL lenses were builded  Very rare rebranded Rollei SL lens:
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35mm: CZ Distagon 2/35 ZE , S-M-C Takumar 3.5/35
40mm: CZJ Tessar T 4.5/40 1Q
50mm: CZ Planar 1.4/50 MMJ,CZ Planar 1.7/50 AEJ+MMJ,Leica Summicron 2/50 v3,S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50,Pentax SMC 1.4/50 K,Pentax SMC 1.8/55 K,Nikkor 1.8/50 ,CZJ Tessar T 3.5/50 1Q , CZ Planar 1.8/50 (QBM),Zuiko 1.4/50, Zuiko 1.8/50, Icarex Tessar 2.8/50, Nikkor 2/50 Ai,Schneider Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 Preset, Pentacon Prakticar 2.4/50 MC v1, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50 Zebra , Rikenon 1.4/50 P
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58mm: Helios MC 44-3 2/58
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90mm: Voigtl�nder APO-Lanthar 3.5/90 SLII , Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/90 v2
100~105mm:Zeiss Sonnar 3.5/100 MM, Nikkor 2.5/105 AiS, S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105
135mm: Leica Elmarit R 2.8/135 v2, S-M-C Takumar 3.5/135, CZJ 4/135 Sonnar Exakta leatherette (1963),CZJ 4/135 Triotar
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cambug
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cambug wrote:
I believe the most authoritative expert on Rollei lenses and cameras should be Claus Prochnow, a former Rollei engineer with sure insider information. He had written a series of books on Rollei, Rollei Reports, published by Lindermann Verlag in Germany. In these Reports, nearly all conceivable Rollei products were described with certain degree of details. Inside the Rollei Report 4, Rollei Werke Rollei Fototechnic 1958 bis 1998, the details of QBM lenses are given with diagrams and history. Not only Zeiss designed lenses are discussed, description of Rolleinar and Schneider lenses are also included. So for Rollei lovers, the books by Prochnow may be an indispensable reference. Unfortunately Herr Prochnow passed away few years ago.
In a simple summary, if the lens is marked Carl Zeiss, it is made by Zeiss in Germany, if it is marked Made by Rollei, it can be Germany or Singapore. HFT stands for High Fidelity Transmission, a name given by Rollei for its multi coated lenses. For sure the 50mm f1.8 is undervalued, the trouble with the lens is the difficulties to adapt to a FF camera body. In comparison, the 25mm f2.8 Distagon can be adapted to FF body without problem, so it's fun to explore all the possibilities with QBM lenses. |
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Keysersoze27
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Keysersoze27 wrote:
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| For sure the 50mm f1.8 is undervalued, the trouble with the lens is the difficulties to adapt to a FF camera body. |
For sure it's an underrated lens
Very good colour reproduction (very Zeiss), sharpest lens @f1.8 I even owned, VERY strong 3D capabilities, and fantastic smooth bokeh. It gets on my nerves that I cannot use it at >10m without hitting the mirror of my 5dII 
I own a LN W.Germany QBM Carl Zeiss Planar version of the lens .... it's a beauty !!!!
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40mm: CZJ Tessar T 4.5/40 1Q
50mm: CZ Planar 1.4/50 MMJ,CZ Planar 1.7/50 AEJ+MMJ,Leica Summicron 2/50 v3,S-M-C Takumar 1.4/50,Pentax SMC 1.4/50 K,Pentax SMC 1.8/55 K,Nikkor 1.8/50 ,CZJ Tessar T 3.5/50 1Q , CZ Planar 1.8/50 (QBM),Zuiko 1.4/50, Zuiko 1.8/50, Icarex Tessar 2.8/50, Nikkor 2/50 Ai,Schneider Kreuznach Xenar 2.8/50 Preset, Pentacon Prakticar 2.4/50 MC v1, CZJ Pancolar 1.8/50 Zebra , Rikenon 1.4/50 P
55mm: Fujinon 1.8/55 EBC
58mm: Helios MC 44-3 2/58
85mm: Zeiss Sonnar 2.8/85 AEJ
90mm: Voigtl�nder APO-Lanthar 3.5/90 SLII , Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/90 v2
100~105mm:Zeiss Sonnar 3.5/100 MM, Nikkor 2.5/105 AiS, S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105
135mm: Leica Elmarit R 2.8/135 v2, S-M-C Takumar 3.5/135, CZJ 4/135 Sonnar Exakta leatherette (1963),CZJ 4/135 Triotar
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DSG
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Rollei Planar 1.8/50: if you have it, keep it ! |
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DSG wrote:
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Perhaps the best of hidden gems.
A lens that can be found on Ebay for little money (I bought my copy for 18 Euros!)
Yet please read this article by the great Marco Cavina:
http://www.luciolepri.it/lc2/marcocavina/articoli_fotografici/Zeiss_Planar_50mm_story/00_pag.htm
(use google translate if you can't read Italian)
He explains everything about this lens, how it was designed by nothing less than Erhard Glatzel, how it was different from all other 50 Planars made until then, how good it is, and how unique in the panorama of the 50 Planars.
He also explains how also the Voigtlaender Ultron 1.8/50 is really this very lens, the Planar.
A very good reason alone to have or buy a Rollei adapter! |
Had it, got rid of it straight away...Its no better than the Pentacon 50mm f1.8. |
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JaccoW
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JaccoW wrote:
What is the difference in registration distance between the Rollei and M42?
M42 is 45.5mm and the Rollei 42mm I think?
I have a very nice CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8, but I came across an ad for a Rolleiflex SL35 with this lens. The Carl Zeiss, German version.
The camera is broken, but the lens should be fine.
He is asking €75 for both, but is open to negotiation.
It looks to be slightly smaller than the Pancolar.
Here is the link to the ad. If anyone wants something translated, just ask.
http://www.fotoapparatuur.nl/Zeiss/Lens_(MF)/Rolleiflex-sl35-met-Carl-Zeiss-planar-50mm-18/Ad125409.html |
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DSG
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DSG wrote:
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What is the difference in registration distance between the Rollei and M42?
M42 is 45.5mm and the Rollei 42mm I think?
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Rollei have sold the adaptor to M42. I had it, very thin. Used my fujinon 19 mm on my SL35 E.
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Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
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Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
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Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
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couchpotato
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couchpotato wrote:
Does the Zeiss/Rollei 50mm/1.8 bear any relation to the Contax 50mm/1.7 in C/Y mount in term of optical design? |
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
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| Does the Zeiss/Rollei 50mm/1.8 bear any relation to the Contax 50mm/1.7 in C/Y mount in term of optical design? |
Well, they are the same type of lens (double gauss), but there are some differences.
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AhamB
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AhamB wrote:
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| Does the Zeiss/Rollei 50mm/1.8 bear any relation to the Contax 50mm/1.7 in C/Y mount in term of optical design? |
Have a look at the page linked to by Orio on page one of this thread; you can compare the optical schemes there. |
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couchpotato
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couchpotato wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
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| Does the Zeiss/Rollei 50mm/1.8 bear any relation to the Contax 50mm/1.7 in C/Y mount in term of optical design? |
Well, they are the same type of lens (double gauss), but there are some differences. |
Thanks, Orio. As you said, very few fast prime has this sharpness wide open. I was wondering if Zeiss had this gem. Why would they redesign it to make Contax 50mm/1.7?
I've a Contax 50mm/1.4. Never consider the slower f1.7 version. Now I've just found a Voigtlander Color Ultron 50mm/1.8(same as Rollei) in m42 mount in local marketplace for 30 euro. Seems I should go for it.
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couchpotato
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couchpotato wrote:
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| Does the Zeiss/Rollei 50mm/1.8 bear any relation to the Contax 50mm/1.7 in C/Y mount in term of optical design? |
Have a look at the page linked to by Orio on page one of this thread; you can compare the optical schemes there. |
Thanks. I was a bit lazy to read it through initially. But it turns out to be a great read and learn a few things. |
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Xpres
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Xpres wrote:
Does anyone have any experience of taking one of these planars apart?
I have one from ebay this week which has been 'messed' with and will need a strip down and rebuild. Any tips before I dive in... ?
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AhamB
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AhamB wrote:
Here's something that I ran into recently: http://www.apug.org/forums/forum147/58922-repairing-contax-zeiss-50mm-f1-4-lens.html#10
Post #2 also mentions something about the focus helicoid which may apply to the Rollei 50/1.8 too. |
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goombles
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goombles wrote:
I noticed that the M42 version of the lens has been mentioned in this topic. I presume it has the exact same optical formula but im curious to know if the rear element still strikes the camera's mirror at infinity?
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I thought the M42 version is an ultron?
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Kram
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Kram wrote:
Just to be clear, which Rollei lens mounts will adapt to Canon EOS? Trying to somehow afford some Zeiss glass with a very small budget. Any help is greatly appreciated. I have a 30D, not planning on upgrading to full frame for a while. |
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AhamB
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
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| Just to be clear, which Rollei lens mounts will adapt to Canon EOS? Trying to somehow afford some Zeiss glass with a very small budget. Any help is greatly appreciated. I have a 30D, not planning on upgrading to full frame for a while. |
I think most Rollei lenses should mount to a 30D without a problem, but infinity focus may require some adjustment on the lens.
A good adapting solution is available through use calvin83: http://forum.mflenses.com/chipped-qbm-to-eos-conversion-kit-t29673.html
(old topic; his ad in the marketplace seems to be gone) |
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Kram
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AhamB, thanks so much! Very helpful.
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dude163
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dude163 wrote:
I have a Zeiss Planar 1.7, is the Rollei optically the same?
or should I just stick with my 1.7?
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AhamB
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AhamB wrote:
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I have a Zeiss Planar 1.7, is the Rollei optically the same?
or should I just stick with my 1.7? |
The answer is in this thread (especially in the link in the first post); four pages is not that much.
The Contax Planar 50/1.7 is similar, but no optically identical to the Rollei Planar 50/1.8. I think that in performance they are very close though. Many acclaim the Contax to be one of the sharpest 50mm's ever, but the Rollei is not as well known, maybe because Rollei was a smaller platform than Contax.
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dude163
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dude163 wrote:
Thats what I get for using a pals iphone to browse the net!
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couchpotato
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couchpotato wrote:
| dude163 wrote: |
I have a Zeiss Planar 1.7, is the Rollei optically the same?
or should I just stick with my 1.7? |
Just got my Voigtlander Color-Ultron version last week. This lens is sharp at f1.8 as the Contax C/Y at f2.8. |
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Kram
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Kram wrote:
I'm very excited to say that I just bought a mint Rollei-HFT Planar 50 mm f/1.8 lens for $69 USD! This will be my first ever 35mm Rollei glass (have medium format Zeiss/Rollei lenses).
Does anyone have a preferred QBM to EOS mount adapter? Preferred seller?
I sent a message to calvin83 who was apparently selling them last June.
Love to hear your input.
Me= very excited! |
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